Primula 2012

Submitted by Hoy on Fri, 03/30/2012 - 13:39

Last summer I found some very small specimens of Primula elatior growing at the verge of the main road in mid Norway. I rescued two plants and they flower in my lawn now.


Submitted by AmyO on Fri, 03/30/2012 - 18:32

YAY Trond! I've been checking mine and they are coming up great this year. I really like the P. elatior ssp. meyeri, such nice colors. I'll be posting lots of pics here flowers yet.

Submitted by Hoy on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 14:54

The auricles are in flower now:

Submitted by Michael J Campbell on Mon, 06/18/2012 - 11:41

Primula waltonii
Primula watsonii ?

Submitted by Mark McD on Mon, 06/18/2012 - 20:51

You grow some true beauties there Michael.  In addition to the last two delights you show us, the slate-blue auricula is fetching, the color of some globularias, for which I have a totally soft spot for.

Submitted by Howey on Tue, 06/19/2012 - 05:24

Michael and Trond - those primulas are really exquisite - makes me resolve to order more seeds this year and to step up their protection - chicken wire, that is.  Fran

Frances Howey
London, Ontario, Canada
Zone 5b

Submitted by Hoy on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 07:05

Thanks Fran.
I'm going to collect some seeds if anybody is interested  ;)

Submitted by Hoy on Wed, 06/20/2012 - 16:30

Here's another Primula - from CC seed last year. I have several plants and almost all of them have buds now. This is the first to open its flowers. The plants look similar to P capitata.

Submitted by cohan on Sat, 07/21/2012 - 21:44

A couple of questions:
I have some seedlings of P bulleyana and P florindae coming along very nicely, and am thinking about the garden placement; I've been reading about their likes, and think I have a grasp on it, but just trying to balance the sun/moisture/cool issue; I currently have one P auricula in the ground, and have found it wilting in mid-day on several days that have been over 25C, even though the soil is always moist; that bed I think of as partly shaded, but realise it actually gets direct sun at mid-day..
So, I'm wondering what if any, conclusions I should be drawing from that and extrapolating to the other P's I mention- the area I was planning for them would have a similar moisture level, and maybe similar sun- mid-day but not late day; I could probably find some deeper shade if that seems better, or I might be able to arrange it so that they have the local shade of one of the rock garden ridges they will be near (I think that would not really shade the plant in mid-day, but help keep the soil cool?
Any thoughts?

Submitted by Hoy on Sun, 07/22/2012 - 10:05

Cohan, I am not accustomed to grow plants above 20C  ;) but if the soil is moist I thinkthe plants will survive although the roots cannot provide water as fast as the plants transpire. I've seen it though on warm days at home but the plants revive in the cool evenings.

However, many Primulas are adapted to drier conditions like P auricula and lutea.

Submitted by Lori S. on Sun, 07/22/2012 - 12:47

If you have enough seedlings, you could experiment.  I'd tend to put both in mostly shade, however I don't have any garden areas that stay moist so my choices are limited.  I've never had P. bulleyana winter over (strangely enough - have tried them often enough from the nurseries) but grew P. florindae for a long time - it's very fragrant, a bonus.  The latter was in mostly shade, though it didn't get any extra moisture where it was.

Submitted by cohan on Sun, 07/22/2012 - 13:16

Lori and Trond- thanks for the suggestions - I do have lots of seedlings, especially one of them (haven't looked at the labels so I will try a couple of different spots.
Interesting you mention auricula as tolerating drier conditions, since that is what is wilting for me on sunny days that mostly I'd only call warm, not hot.. of course its a hybrid, so who knows what genes it has.. if I weren't running short of good sized rocks (!) I'd put one in front of it, maybe I'll find a
Its funny, I've tended to think more about my lack of full, all day sun locations, so now I realise many of my part sun spots do get sun in mid-day when the sun is high- always more things to learn even just about a few acres like this! Of course I do have full shade areas, but many of them have a lot of native plants and I haven't done much bed development in those spots yet.. I could even plant a few in the wet woods behind the house, not quite the same as in the yard but might be an interesting experiment...
Too bad about bulleyana not overwintering, guess I will find out!
I have to get out this afternoon and try to finish (maybe not) the dryland area of the rock garden, then I'll be thinking about some of those shady spots..

Submitted by tropicalgirl25… on Sun, 07/22/2012 - 13:17

Cohan I had a similar problem like you. I got double auricula seeds from Barnhaven primroses and germinated them year before last. I got six seedling.3 of them I planted in full sun .Other 3 planted in the space between my and my neighbours house which gets only morning sun. all 3 have flowers now and all are double. The ones in full sun have stunted look and also wilts in full sun. Last week I moved them also to the area between the houses.

Submitted by deesen on Mon, 07/23/2012 - 13:28

My climate is roughly mild and wet in Summer and less mild and wet in Winter. As far as Summer is concerned, and in the last few days we have at last begun to have to one, Primulas don't like it unless they are well shaded. If not shaded the leaves soon crisp and the plants soon loose vigour and often die. Primula vulgaris often copes better than others in these conditions. So. for Primulas outside in Summer, shade would be my mantra. 

Submitted by cohan on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 11:52

Thanks David and Krish.. I'll have to decide whether or not to move that auricula- the wilting is only for a short time daily, and only on those warm, dry days of which there have not been a whole lot this year! So far no leaf damage...
I'll probably then stick to mostly shadier spots for the new seedlings..

Submitted by Hoy on Tue, 07/24/2012 - 23:37

Cohan, how can you run out of rocks and stones? I could have sent you some nice ones but it's too expensive ;D

Hope this one will do  ;)

BTW these are growing on my driest if not sunniest spot:

Submitted by cohan on Wed, 07/25/2012 - 12:45

Trond, that is very similar colour to my one auricula! We haven't had many of those 'hot' days, so I guess it will hang on for now..
Yes, please send that rock and some others  ;D
I don't have cash to bring in a truck full of rocks right now- it would have to come from at least 20miles/32km away (nearest town, if they have stockpiles at the gravel place there).. so what I have is the mixed stone that comes from farmers' fields around here (it doesn't sit on top of the soil, they have to be picked off fields as plowing pulls them to the surface over time, just very scattered), and was brought here for gardens years ago- I've recycled my old rock garden for the area I'm working on now- still lots of small stones, but large ones are gone except for sandstone pieces I'll be using in the dryland section...
For the next beds I have to dig rocks out of old overgrown plantings of my mom's, prob not too big, mostly 3-6inches diameter at most.. the plants wont care of course, but I love rocks

Submitted by Hoy on Sat, 07/28/2012 - 00:05

I'm luckier than you then! I just have to take my wheelbarrow less than 100m to have plenty of rocks and stone in all sizes.

Submitted by cohan on Sat, 07/28/2012 - 11:44

I wish! Most of our rocks are well buried in soil and invisible until you plow the soil repeatedly...

Submitted by Hoy on Wed, 08/29/2012 - 08:03

An unknown species (resembling P capitata moreana and maybe the very same) from Chadwell seed this year.

Submitted by cohan on Wed, 08/29/2012 - 12:01

Hoy wrote:

An unknown species (resembling P capitata moreana and maybe the very same) from Chadwell seed this year.

Nice one :) Is this a large or small plant?

Submitted by RickR on Wed, 08/29/2012 - 19:16

Like a tiny snow capped purple mountain.

  Very cool and refreshing on this hot day here. 

How old is it?

Submitted by Hoy on Thu, 08/30/2012 - 09:01

Thanks Cohan! The rosettes (I have ca 12 plants) are about 15cm in diameter and the peduncles are 10cm when the flowers start to open and elongate to 20cm.

Rick, I planted the seed spring 2011 and the seedlings overwintered outside last winter.

Submitted by cohan on Thu, 08/30/2012 - 13:46

So still quite small, nice :)

Submitted by Toole on Fri, 10/19/2012 - 02:58

Primula wollastonii --nicely fragrant,with it's impressive sized bells ,enjoying the seemingly incessant rainfall of the last week.

Cheers Dave.

Submitted by deesen on Fri, 10/19/2012 - 10:23

Very pretty Dave, was it from seed?

Submitted by Toole on Sat, 10/20/2012 - 00:26

deesen wrote:

Very pretty Dave, was it from seed?

Thanks David ---nope not by me from seed --i purchased a plant from an alpine nursery about 45 mins travel from here.

Cheers Dave.

Submitted by Hoy on Sun, 10/21/2012 - 10:55

A little sweetie, Dave! It is on my wish-list!

Here's another of the Primula capitata seedlings from Chadwell seed. Picture taken today.

Submitted by AmyO on Sun, 10/21/2012 - 12:12

That capitata is a beauty Trond! I can grow them here but they don't last long. I'm down to one plant after 2 shriveled up in the hot, dry summer. Save seed if you get it! And thanks for your seed donation to the APS!!

Submitted by Hoy on Mon, 10/22/2012 - 14:05

Thanks Amy, I will save seed if they ripen but probably it is too late in the fall. (It was just one collection :-\)