Crocus 2014

Submitted by Tony Willis on Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:51

Our warm weather has moved on some of the spring crocus but comparing them with last year there is little difference in flowering time.

The first two are Crocus biflorus ssp. There has been a move to create numerous new species in this group and these will be two of them.​

Crocus biflorus ssp from Turkey Feithye   

 

Crocusbiflorus ssp from Turkey Kahramaranmaras

Crocus biflorus ssp crewii from Turkey Honaz Dag

 

 

Crocus nevadensis from Spain Cazorla two forms

 

 

Crocus biflorus ssp pulchricolor white form from Turkey Ulu Dag

 

 

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Submitted by Tony Willis on Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:55

Four forms of Crocus cyprius from the Troodos Mountains, Cyprus

      


I have changed the second post which is now working but I am afraid when I tried to change the first one it was classed as spam and it was refused.

 


Nice to see some crocuses in flower! Mine are still only in leaf (outside). Difficult to walk on the lawn though with all the plants starting to show.


Submitted by RickR on Fri, 01/17/2014 - 14:36

I'm not sure what's going on with this crazy system. 

In your first post, Tony, as a moderator all I did was delete your inserted pics from the text box, and then re-inserted them.

Now they work!


Rick

 

thank you that is what I did but then it would not let me update my post,never mind, here are a couple more in flower now.

 

Crocus sieberi from Mt Parnon Greece

  

 

Crocus biflorus ssp alexandri from Mt Falackro Greece

 

 

 


Submitted by Mark McD on Mon, 01/20/2014 - 15:51

In reply to by Tony Willis

Tony, you show such exquisite Crocus, I can identify my favorites among the ones you show as nevadensis and cyprius, wonderful variability on the latter.


Mark

 

thank you,the cyprius are one of my favorites.

Here are a couple more in flower

Crocus pelistericus  

 

Crocus x gothenburgensis , a cross between C.pelistericus and C. scardicus. This particular one seems very close to C. scardicus.

 

 

 

 


Submitted by Hoy on Thu, 02/13/2014 - 01:14

In reply to by Tony Willis

I like the colour of that gothenburgensis. How is the inside?


Submitted by Tony Willis on Thu, 02/13/2014 - 12:20

A couple more Crocus x gotoburgensis. The inside is pretty much like the outside,the markings show through.

 

   


Submitted by Longma on Tue, 02/18/2014 - 12:58

In reply to by Hoy

You're really showing us some unique, rare, and very special Crocus sp. Tony. Cheers! Beautifully grown as always, cool

My thoughts ( for what they are worth ) Trond, are that to succeed in the outside in the garden Crocus x gotoburgensis will need a cool,  very free draining, perpetually moist site !!! Given its parents ( C. pelistericus and C. scardicus ) the skill seems to be providing an environment that is moist enough to satisfy the bulbs needs, while not been too wet to cause rot ( which I understand is the main cause of failure amongst potential growers). Many Some, maybe only a few, people do grow both parents ( usually C. pelistericus ) outside in their gardens though, so it is by no means too ( !!!! ) difficult. surprise

Edit - Strike "Many", to remove exaggeration, devil


Ron an excellent description of the growing conditions however I have yet to meet anybody that does grow either  it or its parents outside. My conditions seem to suit them ideally 

here is a Crocus sieberi from Mt.  Parnassus in Greece.

 


Thank you both.

Maybe I should  try it outside then, my climate is cool and moist and not very cold in winter either!

Although the plants you have shown Tony are well worth growing in pots and admiring on close range I can't have too many pots around.

 

That sieberi isn't bad either!


Submitted by Longma on Wed, 02/19/2014 - 12:38

In reply to by Hoy

Another stunning C. sieberi Tony. A unique specimen??

I'd be fascinated to know if your conditions suited C. pelistericus and C. scardicus ( and so maybe C x gotoburgensis ) Trond.indecision  I fear that your main problem may be getting hold of bulbs or seed in the first place!!. I'm sure that those that show the flowering adults on various websites have managed them for many years


I looked up both species at the AGS site and according to the description there (cold winters with snow cover etc) the climate at my mountain cabin seems to suite them better! Here at home the winters are usually not cold except for a few days and we get a lot of rain too.

Anyway I'll look for seeds/corms!


Ron

I think it is a particularly fine one (they all are!!)  Nothing beats seeing them by the thousand in the wild though.

 

Trond 

I produce some seed of pelistericus each year and so you are welcome to some of it. i understand it is not possible to send corms to Norway.


Submitted by Hoy on Wed, 02/19/2014 - 14:51

In reply to by Tony Willis

I would love to have some seed, thank you!

I can bring home 3kg bulbs etc without soil from Europe when traveling so a few in a letter shouldn't be problematic. Live plants need a phytosanitary certificate though.


Submitted by Longma on Wed, 02/19/2014 - 14:54

In reply to by Tony Willis

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Nothing beats seeing them by the thousand in the wild though.

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That must be an amazing experience Tony? When would you recommend the best time to see this, given the vagaries of the weather each year? Are they all identical to this on Mt. Parnassus or was this a special selection? C.sieberi is certainly a most beautiful Crocus sp. in all of its forms! smiley

 


Submitted by Tony Willis on Fri, 02/21/2014 - 03:50

In reply to by Longma

Ron

 

I always go the first two weeks in May which has been an ideal time for seeing a lot of different plants. naturally it means missing the early species but  timing is always a compromise.

The  Crocus sieberi on Parnassus are very variable as they are in all their sites. It is a very common plant on the higher mountains and occurs in large numbers when suited. A large area around the ski resort on Parnassus has now been bulldozed and turned into car parks during the economic boom. The area is now the site of many unfinished houses and other failed developments, unsightly,but this has had little effect on the plant populations which  cover many miles of mountainside.

Two pictures of small areas of hillside to illustrate how dense the plants can be. Both are on Kymachalana but the C. sieberi could have been taken in any locations.

  


Submitted by Longma on Fri, 02/21/2014 - 06:27

In reply to by Tony Willis

Thank you for the information and wonderful illustrations Tony.

Nothing so spectacular as those you show here, but a few from the garden today.

'Blue Pearl', 'Cream Beauty', 'Tricolor' and 'Prince Claus'.

 

                        

 

                            


Some autumn flowering crocus in bloom here,

Crocus asumaniae - from seed from NARGS Seedex

Crocus serotinus ssp salzmannii seed from Rafa D. in Spain

Crocus pulchellus growing through a mat of Haplopappus coronipifolius (syn glutinosus)

cheers

fermi

 

 


Just common varieties here... Nice to finally see some colour, nonetheless.

Crocus chrysantha 'Advance'; C. sieberi 'Tricolor'; etc..:

        


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Crocus asumaniae JP 88.45, and Crocus boryi.

My leaf-blower broke so I guess I'll have to rake by hand, which I prefer in any case.

Bob

 


Thanks; I seem to notice a distinct change in the weather patterns here, with frost holding off for quite a while (in exchange for awful summer weather...I estimate 275 thunderstorms, plus a tornado, passed over or by our neighborhood this year), hence all the crocus in bloom, instead of frozen. 

Crocus speciosus has seeded itself all over the garden, but when I go to take a picture of one, it's fallen over. 

 

 

Bob