New Zealand Alpine Flora

A bit of a falsehood for my first posting on this thread :) --(however i promise that my next posting will be of a trip to view alpines at sea level --then into the mountains proper).

I thought members might be interested in seeing what most of New Zealand would have looked like, before land clearance and timber harvesting reduced the size of the native podocarp forests.

These forests can still be found in some parts of the North Island------ and here at the bottom of NZ in my home province of Southland. The largest podocarp forests are on the West Coast of the South Island.

Podocarp forests are a mixture of tall podocarps and smaller trees with an understorey of shrubs, plants and ferns and soil and climate conditions play a major role in determining which species are the most dominant .

In Southland, Totara ,(up to 30 mtrs in height),grows closest to the coast, on almost pure sand. As the soil nutrient levels increase, Mataï and Rimu appear. With Kahikatea ,(up to 60mtrs in height),on the wetter sites.

Although they belong to the conifer family which reproduces using cones, podocarps spread their seeds through berries which are transported by being passed through birds. Because of the abundant range of fruits, podocarp forests also support larger communities of insects and birds such as bellbird and tui .

Our residence is situated in one of these forest ,(bush), remnants which backs onto a larger public native reserve and although we are only a couple of ks from the coast our bush has most of the large forest trees mentioned above.

The first pic is of our house surrounded by bush on all sides to give you an idea of scale.

The following pics are of the various genera of dominant trees ,various ferns –Asplenium and Blechnum sps ---–the long strap like leaves of the bush flax ,Astelia ---the stringy bark of a tree Fuchsia and finally the impressive Dicksonia,(tree ferns),all within a few metres of our back door.

Cheers Dave.

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Steve Newall's picture

Wed, 01/09/2013 - 12:49am
Lori wrote:

  For our hikes here, even though we usually pick fair weather and go out in shorts and T-shirts, we have never regretted carrying packs filled with all-weather gear (rain jacket, fleece jacket, insulated pants, gloves, warm hat, light wind pants and jacket) - we quite often use it all!  ;D 

Lori - This is exactly what we do in NZ
Cohan - Thanks for the climate info . The problem with NZ plants in most of the USA is the double hit of extreme cold and extreme heat ( and humidity ) . Plants that could take the heat can't take the heat and vice versa . The West coast is an obvious exception . If your summers are not too hot then it may be possible to grow some interesting stuff like Ranunculus crithmifolius , R.haastii and R.piliferus ( in order below ) outside . Maybe some covering of the dormant plant might help . I will try to find seed for you and Lori as it would be very interesting to see how you get on .

cohan's picture

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 11:27am

Thanks, Steve- any of those would be interesting to try. Heat really is no big issue here- even on the (usually very few) days when we hit 30C, it's only for a couple of hours in the afternoon..
That's a distant memory at this time of year, of course...lol

Toole's picture

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 12:40am

The Southern Rata ,Metrosideros umbellata ,is in full bloom currently here on the coast ,(you can see the wind shear in the first pic).

Another Metrosideros, M.excelsia grows in the North island and is commonly known as the 'NZ Christmas tree'.

I think that 'title' could easily apply to our local species as well.

Cheers Dave. 

Fri, 01/18/2013 - 10:54am

You are lucky to have such gems growing wild! Wikipedia says you have 12 endemic species in NZ  :o And not one is hardy? I mean hardy enough to grow here!

Toole's picture

Sun, 01/27/2013 - 10:36pm

Traveled up country to join members of the Otago Alpine Garden Club ,fellow forumist Steve and Harry Jans and his wife Hannie.
(Harry is out in NZ speaking at the NZAGS Discussion weekend in 6 days).

I headed up on Friday and decided to visit Northern Southland for a look around before meeting up with the others in Fiordland at night.

Masses of Craspedia uniflora ,(woollyheads), were in bloom.

Melicytus alpinus ,(porcupine shrub) on a rock.

A small very hairy Myosotis sps growing out in the open .( Not sure where it ‘sits’ in the new publication "Above The Treeline").

Pentachondra pumila in fruit ,creeping around.

In a bog ,Gentianella amabilis .

One of the locals sun bathing.

The ever reliable Celmisia densiflora in flower.

Unfortunately I had a little hiccup coming down the hill and came off the bike in loose gravel so yesterday I was unable to climb right to the saddle with the others and to be honest my mind wasn't really on plants  .... so just a couple of pics .

Gentainella divisa .
Fiordland.

Hopefully Steve will post some of the goodies i missed.

Cheers Dave.
 

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 9:07am

Some nice goodies there Dave (well, except for the skink ;)), I'm particularly drawn to Craspedia.  I hadn't realized that Gentiana divisa is currently classified as a Gentianella, it's a lovely thing. I tried growing it from seed once, I didn't fair too well :P

cohan's picture

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 10:38am

Sorry to hear about the spill, Dave :(
Some great plants there- awesome foliage/form. Esp love the Melicytus- very cool looking! and great leaves on the Myosotis..

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 1:20pm

How do you do Dave? Nothing broken? Are you able to get on your two-wheeled vehicle?

I have tried to sow the shrubby violet Melicytus twice but never achieved germination. Any advice?

cohan's picture

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 3:30pm

I looked at Melicytus a bit on google, not enough apparently- I didn't get the connection to violets! That being said, if its hard to germinate, maybe GA3?

Wed, 01/30/2013 - 10:14pm

Hi Dave,
Wonderful images and plants (as usual), especially that tremendous Myosotis (worth three 'Wows').  Look after Harry and Hannie and Bob and Rannveig for us, enjoy the conference ... and you know the saying; "Keep on posting, please"?

Steve Newall's picture

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 12:24am

We will look after them Cliff . Just tried ringing Dave but couldn't contact him . Last I heard he was on the improve and should be right for this weekend . I am going to miss Harry's opening lecture tomorrow night but I saw it on his computer and it was very impressive . I'm going to post the Gertrude Saddle pictures now and Mt.Burns tomorrow .

Morning tea break part way up the hill . Dave did very well to make it this far but had to turn back from here

Ranunculus sericophyllus

Ranunculus buchananii x sericophyllus . I have seen the lemon coloured version before but this is the first cream coloured hybrid I have seen

Celmisia bonplandii

Celmisia hectori

Celmisia verbascifolia

Steve Newall's picture

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 12:33am

Harry Jans

Raoulia grandiflora growing in R.buchananii

Celmisia durietzii

Aciphylla congesta

Aciphylla multisecta

Dolichoglottis lyalli x scorzonerioides

Polystichum cystotegia

Toole's picture

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 12:34am

Body is still a bit sore --bad  burn on the inside of the right calf where my leg lay against the motorbike's exhaust ,(I was wearing shorts  :-[)--some damage to the inside of the left knee that was trapped under the bike.
Slowly coming right.Thanks for asking.

Mark -- NZ Gentian were reclassified as Gentianella.I'm not sure when.

As an aside I'll show a photo or two of the new alpine book 'Above the Tree Line ' which has just been published when i get time next week --it's a beauty   :-* ,as I'm away early tomorrow to travel all day up to Christchurch to attend the NZAGS Discussion Weekend.

Hoy ,Cohan I have a friend registering on the Forum in the next day or two.
He has successfully raised Melicytus from seed ,(I've never bothered ), so he will be able to answer your questions.
He also gets around in the hills down here so hopefully he'll show pics as well. :D

Now just going to view Steve's photo's and see what i missed  :'( :'( :'(

Cheers Dave.

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 3:43am

Magnificent photos, Steve ... you always find such stunning drool-inducing buttercups.  (By the way, did the book arrive safe and sound)?

Glad to hear you are on the mend, Dave ... enjoy the study weekend and give our kindest regards to all our assembled buddies please.

cohan's picture

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:06am

Steve- great stuff- love the two Raoulias- such awesome foliage- how big would that view be?
Cool to see the fern standing proudly in the sun too.

Dave- good to hear you are getting better...

Steve Newall's picture

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 10:39am

Book arrived today Cliff . Thanks heaps . Yours is in the return post .
Sunday was a trip up Mt.Burns in beautiful weather . I think all of New Zealand has been enjoying sunny , settled weather for a week now . In fact the Southland Times had a front page headline about the 7 days ( at least ) of fine weather forecast so everyone has been getting a little excited . I reckon it's all down to Murphy's Law - school goes back and the sun comes out .

Celmisia holosericea

Celmisia coriacea

Drosera arcturi

Leucogenes grandiceps

Dolichoglottis lyalli x scorzonerioides

Aciphylla pinnatifida

Aciphylla crosby-smithii . Although it is a good flowering year for all the Aciphylla species I've seen , we only saw 2 plants of this species flowering

Hebe hectori

Steve Newall's picture

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 11:27am

Hi Cohan - as you have correctly guessed the Raoulia grandiflora is on a small plant . Leaves are about half and inch across .

The last pictures are the buttercups , which were the main reason for going to Mt.Burns and the timing was perfect

Ranunculus lyallii

and Ranunculus buchananii

Thu, 01/31/2013 - 2:12pm

Great photos! I've been growing more interested in the genus Hebe (it would have to happen now that I'm in Nova Scotia, and not southwestern British Columbia!). Two plants have been growing quite well in the garden, though this winter will really put them to the test: Hebe odora (syn Hebe buxifolia), and Hebe pinguifolia var. pagei, have been in the ground for a couple of years now, and both bloomed for the first time last summer. Fondly remember Hebe 'Amy', H. 'Quicksilver', and some of the other whipcord form plants from my days out west. Would love to test a few of the whipcord species here, but have no idea which ones to hunt for (almost none are available in the local nursery trade). Any suggestions of plants to try for cold tolerance would be welcome.

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 12:58am

Glorious buttercups yet again ... many thanks, Steve.  Glad the book arrived safely and many thanks for sending the other.  Speak soon no doubt?  Enjoy the Study Weekend.

David L's picture

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 1:02am
Hoy wrote:

I have tried to sow the shrubby violet Melicytus twice but never achieved germination. Any advice?

Dave Toole requested that I answer this question so I have just gone through the process of signing up to this forum. Melicytus alpinus is quite a complex entity comprising up to about 20 different forms All forms can be grown from cuttings or from seed. However seed takes a year to germinate, (virtually to the day!) For anyone who is interested here is a link to a presentation on some of the work done by myself and my colleagues from the University of Otago on the Melicytus alpinus complex given at the Southern Connections Confernce here in Dunedin last week. It may be too much information for some!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/79474488/Orlovich_Southern_Radiations_NEW.pptx

(Moderator: to help gauge download time, the PPTX file is 30.7 MB in size)

Tim Ingram's picture

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 2:26am

Magical pictures! There just has to be a Natural History programme made about these plants sometime. I wonder how many gardeners have any idea how beautiful these mountain buttercups are?

Fri, 02/01/2013 - 8:51am
David wrote:

Hoy wrote:

I have tried to sow the shrubby violet Melicytus twice but never achieved germination. Any advice?

Dave Toole requested that I answer this question so I have just gone through the process of signing up to this forum. Melicytus alpinus is quite a complex entity comprising up to about 20 different forms All forms can be grown from cuttings or from seed. However seed takes a year to germinate, (virtually to the day!) For anyone who is interested here is a link to a presentation on some of the work done by myself and my colleagues from the University of Otago on the Melicytus alpinus complex given at the Southern Connections Confernce here in Dunedin last week. It may be too much information for some!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/79474488/Orlovich_Southern_Radiations_NEW.pptx

Thank you David! I read through your presentation with great interest! Didn't know that this genus consisted of so many forms.
Had been interesting to try cuttings but that isn't easy to get hold of!

David L's picture

Sun, 02/03/2013 - 1:42am

Thanks Cliff, I have several hundred photos taken over the past couple of months to catalogue before I consider posting  but in the meantime Steve and Dave seem to be doing an admirable job showing the NZ flora on the forum.

Sun, 02/03/2013 - 7:17am

Hello David, welcome to NARGS Forum, I recognized your name instantly from SRGC Forum when I saw the registration request awaiting approval :-)

I'll second the endorsement of what a fine job Steve and Dave are doing posting so many images of remarkable NZ native flora and scenery. I keep revisiting these pages to get my fill of astounding Ranunculus species, Celmisias, Raoulias, Aciphylla, and other diverse (even strange, in the case of Melicytus) genera.

David L's picture

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 1:38am

Hello Mark, Thanks for the welcome; I will try an experimental posting.

Here are some pictures of Myosotis pulvinaris taken on the Old Man Range in December. This a small cushion species that grows on bare, very exposed sites on the crest of the range.

       

Some plants flower so profusely the foliage is entirely hiddden.

     

A close up shows the detail of the flowers and the hairs on the leaves. Note the anthers are  more or less below the level of the corolla scales in this species.

     

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 12:26pm

Just arrived from New Zealand (many thanks Steve), a copy of the WONDERFUL 'Above the Treeline' (A nature guide to alpine New Zealand) by Alan F. Mark.

This magnificent field guide to New Zealand's rich and diverse alpine environment features 472 pages, more than 1150 colour photographs, two maps and includes detailed descriptions of more than 675 species of flowering plants.

The ISBN is 978-1-877517-76-1 and it is published by Craig Potton Publishing.  The superb images include contributions by forum members, Steve Newall, David Lyttle, Doug Logan, Dave Toole and many others.

Thoroughly recommended (even if the recommendation happens to come from a New Zealand plant devotee).

David L's picture

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 1:45pm

Hello Cliff,

As one of the 68 photographers who contributed to the book I am pleased you liked it. It was certainly a dedicated effort fom Alan and from Jane Conner the publishing editor as well as many other people who assisted in the production of the book. There are a few errors as would be expected in a project of this size and complexity.  Poor Doug has become Dave Logan so I hope he can reclaim his name at some stage.

The aim of the book was to update Mark and Adams New Zealand Alpine Plants. This has been done with the text more or less following rhe original but including chapters on lichens (David Galloway), birds (Rod Morris), fungi (David Orlovich), invertebrates (Brian Patrick), mosses (John Steel) and lizards (Mandy Tocher). The aim of the book is to be comprehensive with respect to the vascular plants that grow above the treeline. It excludes taxa that have not been formally described and a few others that seem to have fallen off the list.

I am interested to see what the response to the book will be and am awaiting publication of the reviews: Alan has been interviewed by the Otago Daily Times and by National Radio
http://www.odt.co.nz/lifestyle/magazine/244398/elevating-alpine http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/20130207

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 2:46pm

Hi David,
The book is, quite simply, excellent.  An alpine friend of mine from the U.K. is touring South Island at the time of writing and e-mailed me specifically to recommend the book to me (he was suitably impressed that a copy was on it's way to me as we 'spoke'). LOL.

My apologies to poor Doug ... I should have noticed.

Congratulations to everyone involved on such a tremendous achievement.

Toole's picture

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 3:29pm

I consider the book is a very reasonable price too ,at NZ $49.95 and as this thread has been viewed just over 10,000 times....Hope the publishers have a few copies available .
;D ;)

Welcome to the Forum Mr Lyttle.

Cheers Dave.

cohan's picture

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 4:11pm
Hoy wrote:

Another NZ native with awesome folios ;)

lol

Seems like a great book- I could only wish for something similar locally!

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 9:39am
cohan wrote:

Hoy wrote:

Another NZ native with awesome folios ;)

lol

Seems like a great book- I could only wish for something similar locally!

I have ordered one today ;D
We have many books in Norwegian covering different aspects of mountain life - both flora and fauna - but it is always interesting to read about other parts of the world too!

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 12:59pm
Hoy wrote:

cohan wrote:

Hoy wrote:

Another NZ native with awesome folios ;)

lol

Seems like a great book- I could only wish for something similar locally!

I have ordered one today ;D
We have many books in Norwegian covering different aspects of mountain life - both flora and fauna - but it is always interesting to read about other parts of the world too!

You won't regret it, Trond ... it really is an excellent book.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 8:18am
David wrote:

Here are some pictures of Myosotis pulvinaris taken on the Old Man Range in December. This a small cushion species that grows on bare, very exposed sites on the crest of the range.
 
Some plants flower so profusely the foliage is entirely hiddden.

A close up shows the detail of the flowers and the hairs on the leaves. Note the anthers are  more or less below the level of the corolla scales in this species.

At the risk of fury from my Dionysia-growing friends I must say that Myosotis pulvinaris seems to me to be just the perfect cushion plant.

Sun, 02/10/2013 - 9:29am
IMYoung wrote:

At the risk of fury from my Dionysia-growing friends I must say that Myosotis pulvinaris seems to me to be just the perfect cushion plant.

I can second that motion, except to my eyes, those exquisite M. pulvinaris cushions are more reminiscent of Androsace than Dionysia.

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 12:09pm
McDonough wrote:

IMYoung wrote:

At the risk of fury from my Dionysia-growing friends I must say that Myosotis pulvinaris seems to me to be just the perfect cushion plant.

I can second that motion, except to my eyes, those exquisite M. pulvinaris cushions are more reminiscent of Androsace than Dionysia.

... but the guys who exhibit cushion plants in the UK are most crazy for dionsyias !

Steve Newall's picture

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 7:01pm

and then you have someone who crossed Myosotis pulvinaris with M.capitata to produce a New Zealand cushion plant with blue flowers . I think she listed it in her catalogue as M. Tiny Tot  but I'm not sure . Might still be around on the Hokonui Alpines website

Thu, 02/14/2013 - 11:49am
Jandals wrote:

and then you have someone who crossed Myosotis pulvinaris with M.capitata to produce a New Zealand cushion plant with blue flowers . I think she listed it in her catalogue as M. Tiny Tot  but I'm not sure . Might still be around on the Hokonui Alpines website

Peter and Louise list :

Quote:

MYOSOTIS Hokonui
This unique plant is a hybrid of our own raising and we are very proud of it. It makes a nice tight cushion with a succession of cool to warm lavender stemless flowers over summer and tolerates frosts and summer heat very well. Sun and a gritty soil. H5cm x W20cm.

photo here:
http://users.actrix.co.nz/hokpines/myohok.jpg

Pretty little thing - but not a patch on the white beauty shown by  David L!

Sat, 02/16/2013 - 6:32pm

Maggi, the photo link to Myosotis 'Hokonui' isn't working. I looked high and low for an alternate image, but it appears to have been pulled from the Hokonui Alpines site.

But I did find the following:
Leslie Cox on SRGC reports "Myosotis 'Hokonui,' a hybrid between M. capitata and M. uniflora, a tiny, yellow-flowered bun-like mat."
(not sure about the "yellow-flowered" part, photo shows blue-flowered plant)
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6322.msg174665#msg174665

Thumbnail image:
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSz0dpmy22WgKoykiG0...

Toole's picture

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:12am

Catching up on a some recent outings .
A couple of Scottish visitors stayed with us for a few days and one morning we managed to travel a short distance down to the coast .Here’s Jean focusing in on ……..Gentianella saxosa.

David L's picture

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:23am

Mark,

A few comments on NZ Myosotis - We have a lot of undescribed species especially here in the south where each mountain seems to have a least two undescribed species! Perhaps a slight exaggeration but I could post 6 or 7 undescribed species.
However for those who like yellow Myosotis here are two;

Myosotis brevis a tiny annual species with lemon or white flowers and Myosotis uniflora- here we have a cushion within a cushion ( Raoulia)

Toole's picture

Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:29am

Late last week  Steve ,Doug and I searched an area up in the Mt Cook region hoping to locate Ranunculus godleyanus.(Doug has posted a few pics of our trip on the SRGC Forum).

My only experience of this plant is when back in 2008 I managed to flower a purchased plant—if memory serves me right it set good seed which promptly germinated .Unfortunately I never looked after the youngsters and I have only one small plant left although I can't be certain as the foliage doesn't seem quite right…….

My pics are as follows …

View of the Hermitage village and surrounding mountains.

Waterfall draining into the main stream .

Initially travel was easy then the route became very narrow and we had to continually ford the stream and scramble over very wet unstable rock faces.

Eventually our progress was blocked by snow so it was time for a stop to admire the view downstream and plan our next movement….and that was to scoot high up a step side gully . .(At this stage I felt I was on a mountaineering expedition rather than a plant hunting trip !!.). :)

Higher up we found on a moist rocky site ,Schizeilema haastii.
Steve interested in Brachyglottis haasti .

Having no luck in finding the Ranunculus we gingerly retraced our tracks with Mr Newall reassuring Doug and I that having gone up the gully we would be able to get down . :-\

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