I'm not sure of the white flower above - is it Daucus carota?
Just spent the evening "controlling" the virtual plague of self-seeded delphiniums out front, and moving other plants in front of them to hide their tatty, yellow lowermost leaves... mission accomplished, for a while, I hope. There was a casualty though... I broke the top off an Eremurus... grrr! A few things from the yard, some alpine-ish... 1) Phyteuma nigrum, done flowering now. 2) Stachys discolor 3) A stem of Lilium martagon 'Album', with Lupinus argenteus in the background 4) Allium obliquum 5) Scutellaria baicalensis, from seed last year... very interesting flowers and buds 6) Phyteuma scheuchzeri 7, 8 ) A long-time favourite plant, Linum flavum 'Compactum' 9, 10) An extremely hardy (at least zone 2) and elegant plant from the Caucasus, Echium russicum
The white flowers are a carrot lookalike: Pimpinella saxifraga (and the blue grass is Leymus arenarius).
Nice clump of Phyteuma nigra! I sowed this species many years ago and it lowered this spring for the first time!
I have other Phyteuma but never seen discolor, seems to be a fine plant. My Lilium martagon have all grown small and nonflowering! It seems that the Onion Man is not the only one growing Allium! I am at the lookout for new species to try here - they have to be summer-flowering and able to cope with very dry periods. Scutellaria baicalensis have I tried from seed several times but never had any success. Another nice Phyteuma! We have one native Phyteuma in Norway, P. spicatum, but I have never seen it in the wild. Longtime favored Linum you say, how long? My perennial Linums never live more than a couple of years! Have not tried this one, however. Is Echium russicum perennial? Our local Echium, E. vulgare (a very pretty plant by the way) is biennial.
I grow two grasses in my dry-land garden that add light and movement to my plantings.
The first is my favorite, Indian Rice Grass - Achnatherum hymenoides (syn. Oryzopsis hymenoides, Stipa hymenoides) A moderately sized (6-12 inches) western bunch grass with airy, light refracting inflorescence.
The second is a taller (18-24inch) drought tolerant bunch grass. Mexican Feather Grass - Stipa tenuissima (syn. Nassella tenuissima). For soft flowing movement at the slightest breeze it is hard to beat.
I use these two grasses as companions for an assortment of western prairie natives.
Scutellaria baicalensis ... I wonder what I have that is supposed to be baicalensis? It's scads different. Mine bloomed in a pot rather than in ground, but still...
Scutellaria baicalensis ... I wonder what I have that is supposed to be baicalensis? It's scads different. Mine bloomed in a pot rather than in ground, but still...
Rick, it does look scads different than Lori's plant... but will the real Scutellaria baicalensis please stand up? Googling, one finds scads of herbal sites, many of which seem to use any ol' Scutellaria plant photo... it doesn't matter in their drug/herbal world, so those should be largely ignored.
The species is named for Lake Baikal, an area in Russian Siberia. Googling, one learns about this fascinating area, Asia's largest lake, and the world's deepest lake. This species is also found in China; Flora of China says "traditionally used as a febrifuge, for relieving fever... this is one of the most commonly collected species in China.". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Baikal
I gathered up a few photo links, not sure who's got what, but all these upright "scoots" are a hoot to grow, I like em.
Scutellaria baicalensis ... I wonder what I have that is supposed to be baicalensis? It's scads different. Mine bloomed in a pot rather than in ground, but still...
I don't know which plant is the real thing - yours or Lori's or both! Yours seems to be a pretty plant anyway, Rick!
Rick, the differences between our supposed Scutellaria baicalensis seems to be the flower arrangement on the stem - multiples, apparently, on yours and on the UBC photo plant; only orderly pairs on mine - and also that mine has a narrower lower lip. No comment on the flower arrangement on the eFlora of China site though, unfortunately. (Thanks for all the research, Mark!) Mine seems to be the oddball. I was sent seeds for it in a trade last year - interesting plant anyway, but strangely different from yours. I think mine is something else again...
Trond, Linum flavum 'Compactum' is a long-lived perennial for me. Echium russicum is completely perennial here too.
John, I wish those grasses were hardy here but no such luck!
1, 2) Campanula thyrsoides... with a deadly surprise for a bumble bee 3) Erigeron peregrinus ssp. callianthemus 4) Papaver lapponicum blooming fitfullly 5) Convolvulus lineatus var. angustifolius, starting to bloom 6) Hemerocallis dumortieri 7) Geranium x 'Magnificum' 8 ) Anthemis marschalliana 9) A group of 5-year old Campanula barbata... pretty good mileage for a "biennial"!
Campanula thyrsoides have I never succeeded with and Papaver lapponicum is a shortlived perennial in my garden. It grows naturally in the northernmost parts of Norway. Other similar papavers, P. radicatum and allies, also grow in the mountains here, many are endemic to Norway but I have never seen them either in the wild.
Campanula barbata is a native perennial in Norway. Although I have some here they are from seed and selfsow in the short grass.
We have moved from the sea to the mountains, or rather undulating plain (800-1200m) where we have a cabin. No formal beds here, just more or less natural flower meadows (we help by sowing fitting plants).
A piece of the meadow ordinary plants like Vicia cracca, Lothus corniculatus, Viscariavulgaris, Antennaria dioica. Campanula barbata in a natural setting.
Here's a few: 1 - 2) Cheiranthus roseus is a very pretty little thing! I suspect it is likely also fragrant so I'll have to kneel down on that cheese-grater tufa to find out (ouch). 2) Delphinium brunonianum
Here's a few: 1 - 2) Cheiranthus roseus is a very pretty little thing! I suspect it is likely also fragrant so I'll have to kneel down on that cheese-grater tufa to find out (ouch). 2) Delphinium brunonianum
Lori, that Cheiranthus roseus is a lovely little thing. I'm attaching a photo (taken in my temporary garden of several weeks) of Androsace hausmannii, not too plentiful in the Dolomites. Found it accidentally when I sat on a huge slab of limestone to take off a boot and it was all over that side of the rock. Was so excited to see it that I photographed it bootless (ouch!).
What a gorgeous little androsace! I do hope you'll show us more pix of your trip, Anne. :)
1) Jovibarba sp. 2) Iris sintenisii 3, 4) Police car moth (Gnophaela vermiculata)on Allium roseum 5) Gentiana gelida 6) Heterotheca jonesii Now, getting pretty far from alpines... but these may provide cooling images to those of you in the extreme heat! 7) Nymphaea 'Marliaceae Albida' 8 ) Nymphaea 'Crystal', a tropical day-bloomer
I like that spidery Iris, Lori. You too do grow houseleeks? Why the name "police car moth", does the color resemble that of a police car? Here we have seen lots of butterflies the last days, but only common ones as far as I can tell.
Do you have a pond too? I have built one but it is too narrow for waterlilies. I tried but no success - leaves and flowers in a heap. yours are nice.
My plants are only in their second year now. The one shown is in regular soil and is 50cm tall... I imagine they may be more restrained in a rock garden setting? Can anyone else comment?
Yes, sempervivums are extremely hardy and very easy to grow here, and therefore very commonly grown. They do look best growing in rock, though, rather than in regular soil (in which they are quite happy nonetheless).
Hoy wrote:
Why the name "police car moth", does the color resemble that of a police car? Here we have seen lots of butterflies the last days, but only common ones as far as I can tell.
Yes, police cars used to be black with white doors, hence the common name! (It is no longer the standard colour scheme, though.) This is a really poor area for butterflies and moths, and for insects in general - we see vastly more in the mountains than we do at home, despite having a yard full of bloom throughout the season. (We see so few butterflies/moths that we run and tell each other when we do see one! ::)) A couple of years ago, there was an irruption of Painted Lady butterflies, which was wonderful to see!
Hoy wrote:
Do you have a pond too? I have built one but it is too narrow for waterlilies. I tried but no success - leaves and flowers in a heap. yours are nice.
Thanks! Growing water lilies is one of my husband's interests. We have no outdoor ponds, as it's too cool here for even hardy water lilies to do well (I mean for them to be able to act like the flower machines that they should be, in suitable conditions) - just seasonal above-ground ponds in the greenhouse, where the water can be kept constantly warm (with the help of some heaters, when necessary). Hordes of various tropical fish also enjoy their summers out in the ponds.
Iris sintenisii ssp. brandzae, but in May! (Spring was 3-4 weeks early for us in Minnesota this year.)
Rick, what sun/soil conditions did you give Iris sintenisii ssp. brandzae? I have seedlings coming along that I planted in the partial shade of very-late-to-leaf-out Chionanthus virginicus, but it's a dryish spot, and the mid-day to afternoon sun does cook the spot, although been hitting up the seedlings with the watering can almost daily, and they're growing and look fine so far.
So, I was checking into Scutellaria nana var. sapphirina, and couldn't find it initially... what's going on I ask? Seems that S. nana and S. sapphirina are now two separate species, but initially using the USDA pages
Well, the USDA thinks that Penstemon unilateralis is a valid name for Penstemon virgatus ssp. asa-grayi, which, as far as I know, no authority on the genus accepts, so ..... Scutellaria nana var. sapphirina wanders from its home, it doesn't spread. It leaves its original location for better pastures. S. brittonii and S. angustifolia, on the other hand, spread as fast as a rumor. These last two do have the decency to disappear for the summer, and, if you look at them from a cosmic perspective (like comparing them to the speed at which Veronica oltensis takes over everything in sight), they are fairly slow.
Well, the USDA thinks that Penstemon unilateralis is a valid name for Penstemon virgatus ssp. asa-grayi, which, as far as I know, no authority on the genus accepts, so ..... Scutellaria nana var. sapphirina wanders from its home, it doesn't spread. It leaves its original location for better pastures. S. brittonii and S. angustifolia, on the other hand, spread as fast as a rumor. These last two do have the decency to disappear for the summer, and, if you look at them from a cosmic perspective (like comparing them to the speed at which Veronica oltensis takes over everything in sight), they are fairly slow.
"Forgive the lateness of my reply."
Bob, the description of Scutellaria nana var. sapphirina as "wandering from its home" versus "spreading" is a useful-to-know nuance of it's growing habit... wish I still had it (Lori, are you listening, grow this plant on someplace, and keep it going, it's a dwarf cutie).
I'm also arriving at a point of assessing certain aggressive spreading tendencies, and with a small plant like Scutellaria angustifolia, and the fact it goes completely dormant and disappears shortly after flowering, one can make greater allowances for its spread when it is non-threatening to other more substantive plants.
Impatiens glandulosa alba. Also in pic Impatiens balfourii (at base of I. gland.) Aralia occidentalis (rear left) I've been having to keep it trimmed back so it does take over. At four years old from seed, it grows larger than Aralia cordata var. sacchalinensis. It will be replanted in the yard next spring. Fargesia rufa (partial pic, far right) proving to be a very worth bamboo for my cold climate. Allium stellatum (bottom left)
Second photo: Basal stem, Impatiens glandulosa alba
At six feet tall, it's a good thing Impatiens glandulosa alba has terminal flowers!
Gosh, I wonder how tall it would get if I didn't have dry soil?
They can grow a little taller! I have different color forms of I. glandulosa and they sow themselves all over my place. Have to mow them. I let some grow and the tallest reach about 3m. When I come home in a week I can show you pics.
Scutellaria nana var. sapphirina wanders from its home, it doesn't spread. It leaves its original location for better pastures.
Well, that sounds better than, say, "rampantly invasive"... Okay, I'll leave it where it is for now, though it will be interesting to see how far it has to go to find better pastures in my little plant gulag. ;D
RickR wrote:
At six feet tall, it's a good thing Impatiens glandulosa alba has terminal flowers!
Yeah, works for me but I wonder if short people would agree? ??? :D Nice to see some of your garden, Rick.
A few in bloom from seed this year: 1) Asperula boissieri - seems to be a form with rather curly foliage. From Pavelka: "2200m, Killini Mts., Greece; very dwarf compact silvery-grey cushions; stemless pale to dark rose flowers; limestone rocky slopes, 2006 seed." 2) Silene macrantha, or so it was said to be - it's supposed to have greenish-yellow flowers, however. Big flowers on a tiny plant, anyway. (Pavelka: "2000m, Komovi, Montenegro; small tufted plant, 5-15cm, pale green leaves; greenish-yellow flowers, stoney slopes; 2005 seed.") 3) Arabis androsacea - wonderful furry rosettes, flowers nothing much to write home about yet. (Seeds from Holubec: "ex. Turkey: Ala Dag, 2200m, limestone scree; small cushions, white hairy rosettes, white flowers on 4cm long stems; 2009 seed."
And: 4) Eryngium alpinum 5) DH's mislabelled rose, that could not have been further from what it was supposed to have been... but sort of appealing. 6) In DH's greenhouse ponds, Nymphaea 'Madame Ganna Walska' 7) Nymphaea 'Helvola' 8 ) Azorella trifurcata, or so it seems from the yellow umbels (vs. greenish-white, apparently, on Bolax gummifera?) 9) Another Inula rhizocephala 10 ) Just a garden shot
[quote author=RickR link=topic=274.msg3515#msg3515 date=1280511815] Allium stellatum from seed from a native stand about 50 miles west of me in Minnesota. For a wild onion, the bulbs are surprisingly tasty!
Campanula americana. Just ending bloom to the right is Digitalisferruginea. [/quote I didn't notice this post while I commented the Impatiens pictures! Both the Allium and the Campanula are new to me. Are the C. americana perennial? Seems to be plants to try here.
Trond, Campanula americana is a biennial, and in many (if not most) gardens a notorious self seeder. I try not to allow to much seed production. Most people don't think of it as garden worthy, I don't think. I have found that the plants can be susceptible to a wilt disease. I know verticillium is present in my land, so I assume it is that.
Allium stellatum is quite vigorous, and also a vigorous self seeder too, but it is easily prevented but cutting the stalks. The bicolor umbels, with white buds opening to lavender remind me of fireworks.
Thank you for the compliments! The great thing about photos and posting to remote sites like this, is that no one sees the really ratty parts of the garden. ;D ;D
And, making another appeal... I'm posting all this stuff, not strictly for compliment-fishing (although I must say that that is very nice ;D ;D), as in the hopes of encouraging other, so-far silent, members to feel free to share a running journal of their alpines, and gardens in general. I'm sure we'd all love to see what grows in different areas, and conditions, at different times through the season... (Hey, I need some ideas, too, for my future plantings!)
Arrived home after 5 weeks vaccation. Met by a real wilderness. Have to mow and cut my way through the woodland. These are not the worst: The creeping Acaena ovalifolia have grown 3-4ft and cover the path. Alstroemeria aurea have gotten 3 ft tall and fall over and block the path.
Interesting to see those plants flourishing! The best I've ever done with Acaena was to have tiny bits survive the winter. Are the seedpods as painful to step on as they look to be? I imagine your Alstroemeria are perennial there too... another mind-bending concept for those in this zone!
Interesting to see those plants flourishing! The best I've ever done with Acaena was to have tiny bits survive the winter. Are the seedpods as painful to step on as they look to be? I imagine your Alstroemeria are perennial there too... another mind-bending concept for those in this zone!
The burs are fortunately soft to trample on even with bare feet. And yes, the Alstroemeria aurea is a a hardy perennial here spreading slowly with underground rhizomes.
Okay, persisting with this... won't you join us and post some photos of your gardens too?
1) Even protected under a good-sized Pinus sylvestris 'Watereri', it appears the hail managed to whack a few leaves of this silver-leaved Cyclamen purpurascens 2) A gorgeous and under-appreciated native, Dalea purpurea - it is perfectly well-behaved in the garden, and reaches glorious proportions, even in the poor, dry soil out along our fence... as compared to the very modest little plants (2-3 stems) I see in the wild, oddly enough. 3) Onosma stellulata 4) Telekia speciosa... it's giant leaves are, unfortunately, quite vulnerable to hail damage! 5) Perhaps not the neatest dianthus in form or flower, but the fragrance is intoxicating and most unusual, a sweet perfume rather than the usual clove-spice... Dianthus monspessulanus 6) Verbascum nigrum... this genus is worth all it weeding it causes me. :) 7) Another Campanula thyrsoides, showing the very hairy flowers and the randomness of bloom along the stem -flowering sometimes starts in the middle, then ends up at the top and base or is all over the stalk at once, odd! 8 ) Not much happening in the troughs, but for Campanula hercegovina, starting to bloom... 9) And this little dianthus.
Lori, a nice assortment! Looking at your much larger plant of a silver-leaved Cyclamen purpurescens will inspire my as-of-yet single leaf young plant of an all-silver C. purpurescens that showed up recently. And Dalea purpurea, WOW, that's now a *must have* plant on my list, that one really speaks to me. I think you might have skipped over Verbascum nigrum, I don't see it... I'm anxious to see it.
Holy moly, Lori! And I was very happy with my Verbascum nigrum, until I see yours.
Here is my Verbascum nigrum wimp. It's the second flush of flowers, even though I let all the first flush flowers go to seed. (I'm not sure they produced seed, though.) I cut the old stalks down just so I could take this pic. On the left is Allium stellatum from Kandiyohi County, MN, and center is Ruellia humilis.
My goodness, Lori.... your Campanula hercegovina is a real beauty 8)
I don't know Dalea purpurea and my search via the RHS plantfinder lists only a couple pf mailorder suppliers in the UK, one of whom hasn't actually got it listed!
Do you get a good seed set on yours ( she asked, plaintively and full of hope.......... ;) ) M
Maggi, Dalea purpurea is a favourite of bees, and produces seeds generously, and I have several of them - enough to supply every seedex that exists!! :o Just PM me with your address and I'll send you seeds later on when they are ready. Mark, it is certainly a drought-resistant plant, adapted to the dry plains, with a deep taproot - one that would likely take your current drought and watering ban in stride.
Actually, Rick, perhaps I shouldn't say this but the particular V. nigrum I showed is a bit undersized, in comparison to big, mature plants out back where the conditions are a bit kinder! ;D They are long-lived perennials here; there too? In our short season, they have a long bloom, but I've never thought of coaxing two sets of flowers stems out of them... not sure they'd actually manage it here... ? (Come to think of it, I think I have a test case... some young miscreant broke the flower stems off a young plant out front. I'll keep an eye on it and see if it is inclined to replace those stems or not. :) ) Is the Ruellia a native plant there? I assume it's perennial there, as well? Very intriguing... I'm enjoying your photos a lot and hope to see more of your beautiful garden! So glad you got the digital camera a while back!
1) A sweet little thing, though apparently an annual (dang!) - Omphalodes kuzinskyanae , from the SRGC seedex 2) Campanula dolomitica, purchased this spring. It will likely get too big (and spreading) for the little tufa garden, but for now, it adds some interest. 3) Not one to stop traffic, exactly - Silene pusilla, from seed this year 4) Looking forward to seeing the flowers on this one - Onobrychis argyrea - based on my admiration of the beautiful flowers of the foothills forage-crop plant/weed, sainfoin (Onobrychis vicifolia). The seeds are from Pavelka: "1500m, Urgup, Turkey; tufted perennial, silver hairy leaves, erect-ascending scapes 15-25cm, 3-8 yellow flowers, dry sunny hills." 5) Campanula x carpatica, helping to soften... a little... a trough full of cacti and dasiphora.
So, it's almost mid-August. What's happening in your gardens?
1) Senecio polyodon, from seed this spring. (I suspect it is ssp. polyodon, though the seeds from trade didn't specify that.) I had this for many years some time ago (until it was swamped by other plants) and was never quite certain if it overwintered, or merely seeded... I always suspected it actually overwintered. 2) Lilium martagon 3) Dracocephalum grandiflorum with Scutellaria alpina 4) Aconitum lycoctonum 5) Carlina acaulis looks most interesting to me at this stage, before the flowers open. 6) Campanula 'Elizabeth Oliver' 7) Lallemantia canescens - only wimpy little plants this year 8 ) Echinops tschimganicus - is this a valid name? 9) Another Cyclamen purpurascens 10) And finally one from the rock garden, though hardly a spectacular thing... Didymophysa vesicaria- Correction: probably Braya linearis; seeds from Holubec (description: "China: Beima Shan, Yunnan, 4800m, limestone scree, small caespitose plant, 8cm high, white to pink flowers in terminal inflorescence, rounded inflated siliques, 15mm wide; 2008 seed.")
Which leads me to a question for all you enthusiasts out there...
What alpines would one grow for late summer/fall colour and bloom?
Comments
Lori S. (not verified)
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 8:03amVery pretty! Do I see Campanula rotundifolia in there too? I had to look up "gean" -wild cherry? (Not a familiar term for me - nice to learn things!)
Trond Hoy
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 8:57amYes, you do; and yes, that's right! (The Norwegian name is fuglebær - "bird-berry".)
Here are the harebell, and a spruce to show that they also creep in the lowlands!
The island's name is Jomfruland = Virgin land.
Lori S. (not verified)
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 10:25pmI'm not sure of the white flower above - is it Daucus carota?
Just spent the evening "controlling" the virtual plague of self-seeded delphiniums out front, and moving other plants in front of them to hide their tatty, yellow lowermost leaves... mission accomplished, for a while, I hope. There was a casualty though... I broke the top off an Eremurus... grrr!
A few things from the yard, some alpine-ish...
1) Phyteuma nigrum, done flowering now.
2) Stachys discolor
3) A stem of Lilium martagon 'Album', with Lupinus argenteus in the background
4) Allium obliquum
5) Scutellaria baicalensis, from seed last year... very interesting flowers and buds
6) Phyteuma scheuchzeri
7, 8 ) A long-time favourite plant, Linum flavum 'Compactum'
9, 10) An extremely hardy (at least zone 2) and elegant plant from the Caucasus, Echium russicum
Trond Hoy
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 11:34pmThe white flowers are a carrot lookalike: Pimpinella saxifraga (and the blue grass is Leymus arenarius).
Nice clump of Phyteuma nigra! I sowed this species many years ago and it lowered this spring for the first time!
I have other Phyteuma but never seen discolor, seems to be a fine plant.
My Lilium martagon have all grown small and nonflowering!
It seems that the Onion Man is not the only one growing Allium! I am at the lookout for new species to try here - they have to be summer-flowering and able to cope with very dry periods.
Scutellaria baicalensis have I tried from seed several times but never had any success.
Another nice Phyteuma! We have one native Phyteuma in Norway, P. spicatum, but I have never seen it in the wild.
Longtime favored Linum you say, how long? My perennial Linums never live more than a couple of years! Have not tried this one, however.
Is Echium russicum perennial? Our local Echium, E. vulgare (a very pretty plant by the way) is biennial.
John P. Weiser
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Thu, 07/15/2010 - 8:33amI grow two grasses in my dry-land garden that add light and movement to my plantings.
The first is my favorite, Indian Rice Grass - Achnatherum hymenoides (syn. Oryzopsis hymenoides, Stipa hymenoides) A moderately sized (6-12 inches) western bunch grass with airy, light refracting inflorescence.
The second is a taller (18-24inch) drought tolerant bunch grass. Mexican Feather Grass - Stipa tenuissima (syn. Nassella tenuissima). For soft flowing movement at the slightest breeze it is hard to beat.
I use these two grasses as companions for an assortment of western prairie natives.
Trond Hoy
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Thu, 07/15/2010 - 8:39amI like your grasses, Weiser!
Can't you open a new thread on grasses?
By the way, do you collect seed of any of your plants?
Richard T. Rodich
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Thu, 07/15/2010 - 6:17pmScutellaria baicalensis ... I wonder what I have that is supposed to be baicalensis? It's scads different. Mine bloomed in a pot rather than in ground, but still...
Mark McDonough
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Thu, 07/15/2010 - 7:29pmRick, it does look scads different than Lori's plant... but will the real Scutellaria baicalensis please stand up? Googling, one finds scads of herbal sites, many of which seem to use any ol' Scutellaria plant photo... it doesn't matter in their drug/herbal world, so those should be largely ignored.
The species is named for Lake Baikal, an area in Russian Siberia. Googling, one learns about this fascinating area, Asia's largest lake, and the world's deepest lake. This species is also found in China; Flora of China says "traditionally used as a febrifuge, for relieving fever... this is one of the most commonly collected species in China.".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Baikal
I gathered up a few photo links, not sure who's got what, but all these upright "scoots" are a hoot to grow, I like em.
Flora of China drawing and species description:
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3315&flora_id=2
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020285
More photo/info links:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/po...
http://www.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/plants/magnoliophyta/magnoliophytin...
http://www.rmrp.com/Images/Plants/S/Scuttelaria%20baicalensis%20100DPI.jpg
Trond Hoy
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Thu, 07/15/2010 - 11:02pmI don't know which plant is the real thing - yours or Lori's or both!
Yours seems to be a pretty plant anyway, Rick!
Lori S. (not verified)
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Fri, 07/16/2010 - 8:22amRick, the differences between our supposed Scutellaria baicalensis seems to be the flower arrangement on the stem - multiples, apparently, on yours and on the UBC photo plant; only orderly pairs on mine - and also that mine has a narrower lower lip. No comment on the flower arrangement on the eFlora of China site though, unfortunately. (Thanks for all the research, Mark!) Mine seems to be the oddball. I was sent seeds for it in a trade last year - interesting plant anyway, but strangely different from yours. I think mine is something else again...
Trond, Linum flavum 'Compactum' is a long-lived perennial for me. Echium russicum is completely perennial here too.
John, I wish those grasses were hardy here but no such luck!
Lori S. (not verified)
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Sat, 07/17/2010 - 8:13pmSo, what's happening in your gardens in mid-July?
1, 2) Campanula thyrsoides... with a deadly surprise for a bumble bee
3) Erigeron peregrinus ssp. callianthemus
4) Papaver lapponicum blooming fitfullly
5) Convolvulus lineatus var. angustifolius, starting to bloom
6) Hemerocallis dumortieri
7) Geranium x 'Magnificum'
8 ) Anthemis marschalliana
9) A group of 5-year old Campanula barbata... pretty good mileage for a "biennial"!
Trond Hoy
Re: What do you see on your garden walks?
Tue, 07/20/2010 - 4:42amA nice bunch, Lori!
Campanula thyrsoides have I never succeeded with and Papaver lapponicum is a shortlived perennial in my garden. It grows naturally in the northernmost parts of Norway. Other similar papavers, P. radicatum and allies, also grow in the mountains here, many are endemic to Norway but I have never seen them either in the wild.
Campanula barbata is a native perennial in Norway. Although I have some here they are from seed and selfsow in the short grass.
We have moved from the sea to the mountains, or rather undulating plain (800-1200m) where we have a cabin. No formal beds here, just more or less natural flower meadows (we help by sowing fitting plants).
A piece of the meadow ordinary plants like Vicia cracca, Lothus corniculatus, Viscaria vulgaris, Antennaria dioica.
Campanula barbata in a natural setting.
Trond Hoy
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Tue, 07/20/2010 - 4:53am...and Hieracium aurantiacum and Polemonium caeruleum. (Our cabin in the background)
Lori S. (not verified)
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Fri, 07/23/2010 - 6:28pmLovely to see your plant selection, Trond!
Here's a few:
1 - 2) Cheiranthus roseus is a very pretty little thing! I suspect it is likely also fragrant so I'll have to kneel down on that cheese-grater tufa to find out (ouch).
2) Delphinium brunonianum
Trond Hoy
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Sat, 07/24/2010 - 3:57amCheiranthus roseus is cute! I have only grown C. cheiri.
How tall does Delphinium brunonianum get?
Anne Spiegel
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Sat, 07/24/2010 - 5:11amLori, that Cheiranthus roseus is a lovely little thing. I'm attaching a photo (taken in my temporary garden of several weeks) of Androsace hausmannii, not too plentiful in the Dolomites. Found it accidentally when I sat on a huge slab of limestone to take off a boot and it was all over that side of the rock. Was so excited to see it that I photographed it bootless (ouch!).
Lori S. (not verified)
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Sat, 07/24/2010 - 5:02pmWhat a gorgeous little androsace! I do hope you'll show us more pix of your trip, Anne. :)
1) Jovibarba sp.
2) Iris sintenisii
3, 4) Police car moth (Gnophaela vermiculata)on Allium roseum
5) Gentiana gelida
6) Heterotheca jonesii
Now, getting pretty far from alpines... but these may provide cooling images to those of you in the extreme heat!
7) Nymphaea 'Marliaceae Albida'
8 ) Nymphaea 'Crystal', a tropical day-bloomer
Trond Hoy
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Sun, 07/25/2010 - 11:26pmI like that spidery Iris, Lori. You too do grow houseleeks?
Why the name "police car moth", does the color resemble that of a police car? Here we have seen lots of butterflies the last days, but only common ones as far as I can tell.
Do you have a pond too? I have built one but it is too narrow for waterlilies. I tried but no success - leaves and flowers in a heap. yours are nice.
Richard T. Rodich
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 6:02amIris sintenisii ssp. brandzae, but in May! (Spring was 3-4 weeks early for us in Minnesota this year.)
Trond Hoy
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 6:10amSo, you have this one too, Rick! I understand that I have to try'em but the slugs often find Irises irresistible.
Lori S. (not verified)
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 9:42pmVery nice, Rick! What else do you have in bloom?
My plants are only in their second year now. The one shown is in regular soil and is 50cm tall... I imagine they may be more restrained in a rock garden setting? Can anyone else comment?
Lori S. (not verified)
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Tue, 07/27/2010 - 11:54amYes, sempervivums are extremely hardy and very easy to grow here, and therefore very commonly grown. They do look best growing in rock, though, rather than in regular soil (in which they are quite happy nonetheless).
Yes, police cars used to be black with white doors, hence the common name! (It is no longer the standard colour scheme, though.) This is a really poor area for butterflies and moths, and for insects in general - we see vastly more in the mountains than we do at home, despite having a yard full of bloom throughout the season. (We see so few butterflies/moths that we run and tell each other when we do see one! ::)) A couple of years ago, there was an irruption of Painted Lady butterflies, which was wonderful to see!
Thanks! Growing water lilies is one of my husband's interests. We have no outdoor ponds, as it's too cool here for even hardy water lilies to do well (I mean for them to be able to act like the flower machines that they should be, in suitable conditions) - just seasonal above-ground ponds in the greenhouse, where the water can be kept constantly warm (with the help of some heaters, when necessary). Hordes of various tropical fish also enjoy their summers out in the ponds.
Trond Hoy
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Tue, 07/27/2010 - 2:40pmThanks Lori.
We had black and white police cars before too!
Mark McDonough
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Wed, 07/28/2010 - 5:27amRick, what sun/soil conditions did you give Iris sintenisii ssp. brandzae? I have seedlings coming along that I planted in the partial shade of very-late-to-leaf-out Chionanthus virginicus, but it's a dryish spot, and the mid-day to afternoon sun does cook the spot, although been hitting up the seedlings with the watering can almost daily, and they're growing and look fine so far.
Robert Nold
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Wed, 07/28/2010 - 8:38pmWell, the USDA thinks that Penstemon unilateralis is a valid name for Penstemon virgatus ssp. asa-grayi, which, as far as I know, no authority on the genus accepts, so .....
Scutellaria nana var. sapphirina wanders from its home, it doesn't spread. It leaves its original location for better pastures. S. brittonii and S. angustifolia, on the other hand, spread as fast as a rumor. These last two do have the decency to disappear for the summer, and, if you look at them from a cosmic perspective (like comparing them to the speed at which Veronica oltensis takes over everything in sight), they are fairly slow.
"Forgive the lateness of my reply."
Mark McDonough
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Wed, 07/28/2010 - 9:46pmBob, the description of Scutellaria nana var. sapphirina as "wandering from its home" versus "spreading" is a useful-to-know nuance of it's growing habit... wish I still had it (Lori, are you listening, grow this plant on someplace, and keep it going, it's a dwarf cutie).
I'm also arriving at a point of assessing certain aggressive spreading tendencies, and with a small plant like Scutellaria angustifolia, and the fact it goes completely dormant and disappears shortly after flowering, one can make greater allowances for its spread when it is non-threatening to other more substantive plants.
Richard T. Rodich
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Fri, 07/30/2010 - 10:28amImpatiens glandulosa alba.
Also in pic
Impatiens balfourii (at base of I. gland.)
Aralia occidentalis (rear left) I've been having to keep it trimmed back so it does take over. At four years old from seed, it grows larger than Aralia cordata var. sacchalinensis. It will be replanted in the yard next spring.
Fargesia rufa (partial pic, far right) proving to be a very worth bamboo for my cold climate.
Allium stellatum (bottom left)
Second photo: Basal stem, Impatiens glandulosa alba
Richard T. Rodich
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Fri, 07/30/2010 - 10:34amAt six feet tall, it's a good thing Impatiens glandulosa alba has terminal flowers!
Gosh, I wonder how tall it would get if I didn't have dry soil?
Richard T. Rodich
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Fri, 07/30/2010 - 10:43amAllium stellatum from seed from a native stand about 50 miles west of me in Minnesota. For a wild onion, the bulbs are surprisingly tasty!
Campanula americana. Just ending bloom to the right is Digitalis ferruginea.
Trond Hoy
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Fri, 07/30/2010 - 10:56amThey can grow a little taller! I have different color forms of I. glandulosa and they sow themselves all over my place. Have to mow them. I let some grow and the tallest reach about 3m. When I come home in a week I can show you pics.
Lori S. (not verified)
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Sat, 07/31/2010 - 9:22pmWell, that sounds better than, say, "rampantly invasive"... Okay, I'll leave it where it is for now, though it will be interesting to see how far it has to go to find better pastures in my little plant gulag. ;D
Yeah, works for me but I wonder if short people would agree? ??? :D
Nice to see some of your garden, Rick.
A few in bloom from seed this year:
1) Asperula boissieri - seems to be a form with rather curly foliage. From Pavelka: "2200m, Killini Mts., Greece; very dwarf compact silvery-grey cushions; stemless pale to dark rose flowers; limestone rocky slopes, 2006 seed."
2) Silene macrantha, or so it was said to be - it's supposed to have greenish-yellow flowers, however. Big flowers on a tiny plant, anyway. (Pavelka: "2000m, Komovi, Montenegro; small tufted plant, 5-15cm, pale green leaves; greenish-yellow flowers, stoney slopes; 2005 seed.")
3) Arabis androsacea - wonderful furry rosettes, flowers nothing much to write home about yet. (Seeds from Holubec: "ex. Turkey: Ala Dag, 2200m, limestone scree; small cushions, white hairy rosettes, white flowers on 4cm long stems; 2009 seed."
And:
4) Eryngium alpinum
5) DH's mislabelled rose, that could not have been further from what it was supposed to have been... but sort of appealing.
6) In DH's greenhouse ponds, Nymphaea 'Madame Ganna Walska'
7) Nymphaea 'Helvola'
8 ) Azorella trifurcata, or so it seems from the yellow umbels (vs. greenish-white, apparently, on Bolax gummifera?)
9) Another Inula rhizocephala
10 ) Just a garden shot
Trond Hoy
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Sat, 07/31/2010 - 11:54pm[quote author=RickR link=topic=274.msg3515#msg3515 date=1280511815]
Allium stellatum from seed from a native stand about 50 miles west of me in Minnesota. For a wild onion, the bulbs are surprisingly tasty!
Campanula americana. Just ending bloom to the right is Digitalis ferruginea.
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I didn't notice this post while I commented the Impatiens pictures! Both the Allium and the Campanula are new to me. Are the C. americana perennial? Seems to be plants to try here.
Panayoti Kelaidis
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Sun, 08/01/2010 - 10:28amReally enjoyed the pix of your garden, Lori: you have created a stunner there! Love to visit it some time...
PK
Trond Hoy
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Sun, 08/01/2010 - 10:44amLori, do you ever have the heart to leave your garden except for short walks in the mountains?
Anne Spiegel
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Sun, 08/01/2010 - 1:38pmLori. your garden is beautiful, and you grow such interesting plants.
Richard T. Rodich
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Sun, 08/01/2010 - 5:21pmTrond, Campanula americana is a biennial, and in many (if not most) gardens a notorious self seeder. I try not to allow to much seed production. Most people don't think of it as garden worthy, I don't think. I have found that the plants can be susceptible to a wilt disease. I know verticillium is present in my land, so I assume it is that.
Allium stellatum is quite vigorous, and also a vigorous self seeder too, but it is easily prevented but cutting the stalks. The bicolor umbels, with white buds opening to lavender remind me of fireworks.
Lori S. (not verified)
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Sun, 08/01/2010 - 6:56pmThank you for the compliments! The great thing about photos and posting to remote sites like this, is that no one sees the really ratty parts of the garden. ;D ;D
And, making another appeal... I'm posting all this stuff, not strictly for compliment-fishing (although I must say that that is very nice ;D ;D), as in the hopes of encouraging other, so-far silent, members to feel free to share a running journal of their alpines, and gardens in general. I'm sure we'd all love to see what grows in different areas, and conditions, at different times through the season... (Hey, I need some ideas, too, for my future plantings!)
Trond Hoy
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Thu, 08/05/2010 - 8:00amArrived home after 5 weeks vaccation. Met by a real wilderness. Have to mow and cut my way through the woodland.
These are not the worst:
The creeping Acaena ovalifolia have grown 3-4ft and cover the path.
Alstroemeria aurea have gotten 3 ft tall and fall over and block the path.
Lori S. (not verified)
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Thu, 08/05/2010 - 8:33amInteresting to see those plants flourishing! The best I've ever done with Acaena was to have tiny bits survive the winter. Are the seedpods as painful to step on as they look to be?
I imagine your Alstroemeria are perennial there too... another mind-bending concept for those in this zone!
Trond Hoy
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Thu, 08/05/2010 - 8:46amThe burs are fortunately soft to trample on even with bare feet. And yes, the Alstroemeria aurea is a a hardy perennial here spreading slowly with underground rhizomes.
Lori S. (not verified)
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Fri, 08/06/2010 - 5:07pmOkay, persisting with this... won't you join us and post some photos of your gardens too?
1) Even protected under a good-sized Pinus sylvestris 'Watereri', it appears the hail managed to whack a few leaves of this silver-leaved Cyclamen purpurascens
2) A gorgeous and under-appreciated native, Dalea purpurea - it is perfectly well-behaved in the garden, and reaches glorious proportions, even in the poor, dry soil out along our fence... as compared to the very modest little plants (2-3 stems) I see in the wild, oddly enough.
3) Onosma stellulata
4) Telekia speciosa... it's giant leaves are, unfortunately, quite vulnerable to hail damage!
5) Perhaps not the neatest dianthus in form or flower, but the fragrance is intoxicating and most unusual, a sweet perfume rather than the usual clove-spice... Dianthus monspessulanus
6) Verbascum nigrum... this genus is worth all it weeding it causes me. :)
7) Another Campanula thyrsoides, showing the very hairy flowers and the randomness of bloom along the stem -flowering sometimes starts in the middle, then ends up at the top and base or is all over the stalk at once, odd!
8 ) Not much happening in the troughs, but for Campanula hercegovina, starting to bloom...
9) And this little dianthus.
Mark McDonough
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Fri, 08/06/2010 - 5:24pmLori, a nice assortment! Looking at your much larger plant of a silver-leaved Cyclamen purpurescens will inspire my as-of-yet single leaf young plant of an all-silver C. purpurescens that showed up recently. And Dalea purpurea, WOW, that's now a *must have* plant on my list, that one really speaks to me. I think you might have skipped over Verbascum nigrum, I don't see it... I'm anxious to see it.
Lori S. (not verified)
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Fri, 08/06/2010 - 6:10pmOoops, I did forget my favourite verbascum!! Here it is:
Verbascum nigrum, presumably named for the sometimes-darkish stems?
Richard T. Rodich
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Fri, 08/06/2010 - 10:50pmHoly moly, Lori! And I was very happy with my Verbascum nigrum, until I see yours.
Here is my Verbascum nigrum wimp. It's the second flush of flowers, even though I let all the first flush flowers go to seed. (I'm not sure they produced seed, though.) I cut the old stalks down just so I could take this pic. On the left is Allium stellatum from Kandiyohi County, MN, and center is Ruellia humilis.
Margaret Young
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Sat, 08/07/2010 - 5:29amMy goodness, Lori.... your Campanula hercegovina is a real beauty 8)
I don't know Dalea purpurea and my search via the RHS plantfinder lists only a couple pf mailorder suppliers in the UK, one of whom hasn't actually got it listed!
Do you get a good seed set on yours ( she asked, plaintively and full of hope.......... ;) )
M
Lori S. (not verified)
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Sat, 08/07/2010 - 9:57amMaggi, Dalea purpurea is a favourite of bees, and produces seeds generously, and I have several of them - enough to supply every seedex that exists!! :o Just PM me with your address and I'll send you seeds later on when they are ready.
Mark, it is certainly a drought-resistant plant, adapted to the dry plains, with a deep taproot - one that would likely take your current drought and watering ban in stride.
Lori S. (not verified)
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Sat, 08/07/2010 - 12:49pmActually, Rick, perhaps I shouldn't say this but the particular V. nigrum I showed is a bit undersized, in comparison to big, mature plants out back where the conditions are a bit kinder! ;D They are long-lived perennials here; there too? In our short season, they have a long bloom, but I've never thought of coaxing two sets of flowers stems out of them... not sure they'd actually manage it here... ? (Come to think of it, I think I have a test case... some young miscreant broke the flower stems off a young plant out front. I'll keep an eye on it and see if it is inclined to replace those stems or not. :) )
Is the Ruellia a native plant there? I assume it's perennial there, as well? Very intriguing...
I'm enjoying your photos a lot and hope to see more of your beautiful garden! So glad you got the digital camera a while back!
Lori S. (not verified)
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Sat, 08/07/2010 - 8:28pm1) A sweet little thing, though apparently an annual (dang!) - Omphalodes kuzinskyanae , from the SRGC seedex
2) Campanula dolomitica, purchased this spring. It will likely get too big (and spreading) for the little tufa garden, but for now, it adds some interest.
3) Not one to stop traffic, exactly - Silene pusilla, from seed this year
4) Looking forward to seeing the flowers on this one - Onobrychis argyrea - based on my admiration of the beautiful flowers of the foothills forage-crop plant/weed, sainfoin (Onobrychis vicifolia). The seeds are from Pavelka: "1500m, Urgup, Turkey; tufted perennial, silver hairy leaves, erect-ascending scapes 15-25cm, 3-8 yellow flowers, dry sunny hills."
5) Campanula x carpatica, helping to soften... a little... a trough full of cacti and dasiphora.
Anne Spiegel
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Sun, 08/08/2010 - 3:48amWonderful photos, Lori. I hope you will post a photo of the Onobrychis when it blooms.
Lori S. (not verified)
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Thu, 08/12/2010 - 9:20pmSo, it's almost mid-August. What's happening in your gardens?
1) Senecio polyodon, from seed this spring. (I suspect it is ssp. polyodon, though the seeds from trade didn't specify that.) I had this for many years some time ago (until it was swamped by other plants) and was never quite certain if it overwintered, or merely seeded... I always suspected it actually overwintered.
2) Lilium martagon
3) Dracocephalum grandiflorum with Scutellaria alpina
4) Aconitum lycoctonum
5) Carlina acaulis looks most interesting to me at this stage, before the flowers open.
6) Campanula 'Elizabeth Oliver'
7) Lallemantia canescens - only wimpy little plants this year
8 ) Echinops tschimganicus - is this a valid name?
9) Another Cyclamen purpurascens
10) And finally one from the rock garden, though hardly a spectacular thing...
Didymophysa vesicaria- Correction: probably Braya linearis; seeds from Holubec (description: "China: Beima Shan, Yunnan, 4800m, limestone scree, small caespitose plant, 8cm high, white to pink flowers in terminal inflorescence, rounded inflated siliques, 15mm wide; 2008 seed.")Which leads me to a question for all you enthusiasts out there...
What alpines would one grow for late summer/fall colour and bloom?
Edit: Oops, here's that elusive cyclamen now!
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