Paeonies

I have several paeonies, mostly started from seed. One of the first to flower is P. mairei, obtained from Glendoick Garden, Scotland (better known for their rhodos). This spring P. mairei is unusual late.
Pictures show two different plants one more red in the leaves and the flower buds are more globular.

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Mon, 06/06/2011 - 12:06am

Well, Lori, your assumed intermedia is a lovely plant whatever the name be.

Mark, that 'Buckeye Belle' has a brilliant colour!

Peter, I think you do fine taking pictures in full sunshine isn't easy. And the motif isn't bad either ;D

I think I have to look for more deep coloured forms. When I see all your nice plants I realize mine are bleak :(

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Mon, 06/06/2011 - 12:37am

I grow a number of species paeonies and I think the highlight in the garden is P. tenuifolia, probably the most requested species on the nursery. Did anyone grow plants from Jim and Jenny Archibald? Jim had a fantastic collection planted out in one of his polytunnels, including the extraordinary and rare P. parnassica with purple flowers like no other. I didn't buy seed but it was a lost opportunity. Another grower I know with a passion for these plants is Robert Pardo in France, where there is a big interest, and probably good climate, for growing tree paeonies - but he also grows many species and gave me P. mairei, which I hadn't come across before (as well as a very generous gift of P rockii). Gardeners are great people!!

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Thu, 06/09/2011 - 10:07pm

I only have P. tenuifolia 'Plena' (though I'd prefer to have the single form, actually) - unfortunately, its flowers have been somewhat spoiled by rain this year:

The first flower on P. veitchii has opened - interesting that the flowers are nodding, unlike on my other peonies:

Here is the mislabelled P. japonica... the leaves seemed to be "off" and I assume the pink flowers (vs. white) further confirm that it is not P. japonica.  Can anyone suggest an ID for it?
 

Sat, 06/11/2011 - 2:11am

Interesting that you mention nodding flowers on veitchii, Lori. One of my unknown species has nodding flowers and I assumed it is a veitchii. Now am more certain of that.

Although your tenuifolia 'plena' is lovely, I do agree and prefere the single form. Unfortunately I have never acquired any :(

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Sun, 06/12/2011 - 7:45pm

Unfortunately, my double form of P. tenuifolia is incapable of producing viable seed, so I can't send you any even of that, Trond.

I did dig up some seedlings today of P. officinalis 'Anemoniflora' to pot up to give away - I thought they looked sort of interesting:

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 12:00pm

Thanks for the thought Lori!

I dig up several of seedlings from my P. lutea and do use the mower of the rest of them!
Here is a late flowering type peony not unlike P. delavayi but yellow.

Mon, 06/13/2011 - 6:22pm

My kind of botany, Lori...

Typical hypogeal growth, where the root develops first, and then the root (not the seed) sends up a true leaf.

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Mon, 06/13/2011 - 7:57pm

Ah ha, I thought there was something interesting about the shiny black seed still being attached!  Thank you for the explanation, Rick!

Tue, 06/14/2011 - 9:46am

Peonies germinate like the common peas! The cotyledons have taken the role that the endosmerm has in many other seed.

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Fri, 06/24/2011 - 9:06pm

Paeonia caucasica:

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Fri, 04/20/2012 - 5:45pm

Peter, we have grown P. cambessedesii in zone 3/4, in a sand bed, for a few years. Before that we got one through one winter in ordinary well-drained garden soil and then lost it.
Sharon, near Thunder Bay Ontario Canada

Fri, 04/20/2012 - 7:45pm

I planted some Paeonia cambessedesii seed from NARGS this year.  Hopefully, they will make it....

Hello Sharon (and Rob)!  Welcome to the forum, and so nice to have you here!  Don't hesitate to regale us with your great garden know how and wonderful photos.  Our Chapter still remembers fondly their trip to you place, and your banquet presentation oh so many years ago... :)

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 3:32pm

I always enjoy seeing the different appearances of emerging peonies ...
Paeonia intermedia:

Paeonia mlokosewitschii:

Looking like muppets, Paeonia tenuifolia 'Flore Pleno':

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 11:01pm

Just a single pic of an old peony.
This plant I saved from an abandoned site many, many years ago. It did grow in my parent's garden till last year (had grown to a very large clump though). Now the house is sold so last fall I saved a piece and planted at our summerhouse. So this is the first flower on its new place ;D
I believe it is P. veitchii.

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Thu, 05/31/2012 - 11:57am
Hoy wrote:

...........................I believe it is P. veitchii.

I notice no one has given an alternative suggestion Trond.

Lets try to to open discussion. Here is what I bought some years ago with the label "Paeonia anomala???" Since it got to flowering size I have posted pictures of it annually on the SRGC Forum with comments made that it is P. veitchii and sometimes P. anomola ssp veitchii. Looks a lot like like yours!

Thu, 05/31/2012 - 12:58pm

David, it looks very similar to mine. My plant also fits the description given by Phillips and Rix in their book on Perennials. However, I have another one very similar but smaller and even more nodding in bud and flower bud with the same spreading habit. It's from seed and I suspect it is a form of veitchii too.

Sat, 06/02/2012 - 10:20am

Here are a few photos of peonies in my garden. P. delavayi, mascula, and mlokosewitschii were seed grown.  While still not a very nicely formed flower, P. delavayi is getting better each year.  P. suffruticosa was purchased as a yellow tree peony but turned out to be much, much nicer.  The white hybrid was a named variety but I've lost the name.

Sat, 06/02/2012 - 1:18pm

David, this is what I think is a P anomala. (From seed 2009) The buds and flowers are more upright than veitchii.

Sat, 06/02/2012 - 1:25pm

Claire, a very impressive "Molly-the Witch"!
P delavayi is very variable. Here are other forms from seed:

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Sun, 06/03/2012 - 9:14am

I'm surprised, given the climatic differences, that your peonies seem to be blooming at the same time as mine, Claire and Trond!  

Here are a few from my garden.
Paeonia officinalis is really nice this year:
   

Paeonia intermedia (or so it seems, from a determination over at the SRGC forum):
   

What I have as P. veitchii seems to match yours, Trond and David:
 

P. 'Peter Barr', starting to bloom:
 

And, by the way, Claire, it was such pleasure to see your garden while at the WWS - it was just spectacular!  (And I was also deeply impressed by your perfect recall of every plant's name and history.  Though my memory was never so good as that, I hope to regain what little I had someday!)  Thank you for showing your garden, and it's great to see you here!

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Sun, 06/03/2012 - 9:20am

Unknown Paeonia... it came as a seedling in the roots of a daylily I ordered long ago.  (I like it a lot more than the daylily!)

P. tenuifolia 'Flore Pleno' again... this weekend has been quite nice and sunny, but it's been so gloomy lately that the flowers seem to have balled somewhat.  Still an eye-catcher though - passersby often ask about this plant.

P. mlokosewitchii:
 

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Sun, 06/03/2012 - 11:34am
Hoy wrote:

David, this is what I think is a P anomala. (From seed 2009) The buds and flowers are more upright than veitchii.

Mine is very much nodding like your veitchii Trond. The leaves on mine are quite divided too, again like your veitchii. Picture below. I think I'm convinced enough now to amend my label.

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Sun, 06/03/2012 - 11:38am
Hoy wrote:

Claire, a very impressive "Molly-the Witch"!
P delavayi is very variable. Here are other forms from seed:

Here's my grown from seed Paeonia delavayi. The seed came labelled as P. delavayi forma lutea but I think it has some angustiloba blood in it.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 10:22am

I would wonder if that isn't a P. delavayi x P. lutea ludlowii, David, to give that orange shade to the flower.
Rather nice.

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Wed, 06/06/2012 - 11:20am

You could well be right Maggi. As I said the seed was labelled Paeonia delavayi forma lutea and at the time I posted the pic I wasn't aware that P delavyi was a red shade, hence my assumption that there might be angustiloba blood in mine. Still, it's a pretty thing and now it's released into the garden I look forward to more flowers next year. I also have P. delavayi forma angustiloba from seed which I hope will also flower next year.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 12:54pm

Isn't both P. delavayi and lutea lumped together in P. delavayi (P. delavayi var delavayi and P. d. var lutea)?
I once had the "real" dark red P. d. var delavayi but it died several years ago. However it had crossed with P. d. var lutea and now I have several offsprings, some reddish and some yellow but none deep red. I also have another plant with red-striped yellow flowers but none are orange like David's.

     

     

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Wed, 06/06/2012 - 1:16pm

I've just had a look at The Plant List Trond and synonyms of Paeonia delavayi are shown for the following, as well as some others:-
P. d. var angustiloba
P. d. forma lutea
P. d. var. lulea

By the way P. veitchii is now shown as synonomous with P. anomola ssp. veitchii.

A lotta lumping going on out there ;D

You have some nice colours there. Mine is flowering for the first time so it will be interesting to see if it changes much next year.

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Sun, 06/17/2012 - 10:55am

Seeds forming on P. veitchii:

P. caucasica... or so the label said, anyway; it seems an unusual colour if so?
 

Wed, 06/27/2012 - 2:44pm

It really is an unusual colour of your peony, Lori. It could be a  caucasica or a hybrid maybe :-\

Here is a cross between a yellow delavayi and a red one. Usually they're either red or yellow. Picture taken today:

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