Trillium 2012

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Surprise surprise, with exceptionally warm early spring temperatures, plants are popping open all over the place with surprising speed. Walked around the garden several times today, even looked for a sign of Trillium nivale but didn't notice anything, then on an afternoon garden walkabout, there it was, the first bloom on Trillium nivale. Many more sprouts are coming up, for more blooms on another day. Supposed to go up to 80 F (27 C) by midweek, highly unusual, hope I don't miss the flowers while I'm at work.

Trillium nivale, with Helleborus niger in the background on the 2nd photo.

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Madgardener's picture

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 2:37pm

First of the Trillium ovatum Roy Elliott in flower today.  2 inches tall, might make 4 inches when seed sets.

WimB's picture

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 7:24am

:-\ Trillium nivale does not want to grow in my garden....it probably doesn't like the gardener.  :rolleyes:

The first Trillium in flower here now:

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 6:19am

Wim, pretty flower color on that one, by the title of the image are you suggesting it is T. sessile or a trillium of the "sessile type", I'm assuming the latter.  In the first photograph, I can see some damage to the leaves, is that from freezing temperatures when the foliage was emerging?

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 6:38am

The following three trillium species have been queued up ready to bloom, but with the nightly frosts and cool temperatures they're taking their sweet time.  These three species are being shown together because they're related in a way, all come from deep southeastern USA, each with a narrow distribution range, and all perfectly hardy here in New England. 

Trillium gracile, from a collection in Texas, is finally showing some buds after several years, I'm so anxious to see the flowers.  The plants are very small with the leaves low to the ground, but the stems will elongate somewhat.

T. gracile distibution, Sabine River wakerobin, Slender trillium.
(narrow range in Texas & Louisiana)
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=8108&flora_id=1

Trillium ludovicianum distribution, Louisiana wakerobin, has flowered here the past couple years.  Just one plant, hasn't set any seed so far.
(narrow range, FNA: Louisiana, Mississippi, USDA range map includes Alabama)
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=8111&flora_id=1

I have Trillium foetidissimum from several sources, it's a reliable and attractive species.  I also have some coming along from seed.
T. foetidissimum distribution, Mississippi River wakerobin, Stinking trillium
(narrow range in Louisiana & Mississippi)
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=8107&flora_id=1

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 11:39pm

Nice everyone! I have started my (new) collection of Trilliums and some had gotten on nicely when I went on holiday. I'm looking forward to coming home!

kalle-k.dk's picture

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 10:09am

Wim your yellow chloropetalum look like my 'Ice Crem' a selected form from Barry Sligh.
Mark beautiful plants and a good description, thank you. I have some southern forms, but they do not grow so well as the northern and eastern species.

Here are some picture of Trillium from my garden. The big plant as grow next to kurabayashii is white and has a pleasant smell, so I think it's albidum?

kalle-k.dk's picture

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 10:14am

And a few others.

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 11:44am

You really have a collection, Kalle!
My humble collection of Trilliums haven't evolved much the last weeks due to the cold weather :-\

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 6:51pm

Really nice to see all the differing species, Karl.  You sure have a lot of them!  :o
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Trillium sessile seems to still bloom nicely, even in drought conditions, although it hasn't put on much height:

              1 April                                            8 April
       

              14 April                                          14 April
       

Madgardener's picture

Mon, 04/16/2012 - 1:27pm

Very nice selection from all, really like the yellow kurabayashii.
A selection from the garden this week.

Sat, 04/21/2012 - 6:22pm

I'm late to return to this topic, I just don't have enough time to respond as much as I'd like.  So many beautiful trillium being posted here, I like them all, but several cause even more Trillium lust than normal ;) such as kurabayashi yellow form, cuneatum, chloropetalum forms, sessile, and of course rivale, oh my!

I've had lots of trillium in bud for weeks and weeks, finally T. ludovicianum if fully open and looking nice, the center has a rosy glow.  

WimB's picture

Sun, 04/22/2012 - 10:08am

Wonderful plants, all!

Karl, my yellowish T. chloropetalum is not 'Ice Cream', it was a seedling from open pollinated plants.

Mark, I love T. ludovicianum. But it's not easy to grow over here...I guess I'll have to try it from seed once!

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 1:13pm

The last days we really got warm weather - the hottest days for two years! Even now 10PM local time it is still 23oC!
Two Trilliums with nodding flowers showed the colour at last. The red one I assume is T. erectum but the other I don't know.

   

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 7:29pm

Trond, the red one, with nodding blooms with reflexed petals that form a roughly triangular shape, is Trillium vaseyi.  It's in bloom here too, one of my favorite species.

Wed, 05/23/2012 - 1:50am

OK, thanks Mark. I got it with no name, just a number!

Any idea what the other is?

cohan's picture

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 11:49pm

Many nice ones here! So far my Trilliums consist of two pots of seedlings (erectum and grandiflorum, I think, without checking) which after several years are finally making nearly visible leaves  ;D
I'll have to look for some with marked leaves, I know someone in Manitoba that was growing one (don't know which) so I should be able to find a hardy enough sp :)

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 1:49pm
Lis wrote:

Hoy wrote:

...The red one I assume is T. erectum but the other I don't know.

Could be a white form of T. erectum - it looks like it to me. The white form is not that rare and the red ovary is a strong clue to T. erectum parentage and the wide diamond-shaped leaves are also like T. erectum.  Nice in any case!

Thanks Lis! So the red one I thought was an erectum wasn't and the white one I didn't think was an erectum probably is! Glad to know - I got them with a number and no name :-\

bulborum's picture

Fri, 05/25/2012 - 3:58pm

Maybe T. beige ???

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 1:57pm

OK, thanks. I googled Trillium beige and got no hits but Trillium erectum beige did ;)
Mark, beige actually is a colour in Norwegian too (pronounced the French way) but I had to ask my wife how she would describe the colour ;D She said exactly the same as you ;)

bulborum's picture

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 2:10pm

Probably it's just a name
same as Blue roses and Red daffodils

Roland

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 2:13pm

That could be Roland, maybe just a name.  Perhaps in person, the flowers are an "off-white" or a cream color, as opposed to a clean white.  Regardless, it's a most attractive selection.

bulborum's picture

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 2:20pm

I agree

very nice selection

It is also why I try not to name colours
but often I give LN names

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 2:31pm
bulborum wrote:

It is also why I try not to name colours
but often I give LN names

I agree Roland, particularly with such things as Trillium that aren't likely to be vegetatively propagated true to name.

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 2:41pm

I have much to get caught up with.  Here is Trillium discolor "pale forms" grown from 2006 seed from John Lonsdale, this is the first flowering, a lovely light yellowish color.

Next is Trillium lancifolium from southeastern USA, a real charmer in my opinion. It is starting to mildly seed around.  There is no other species quite like it, with those downturned leaves and narrow petals that intertwine at the apex.

Last is T. grandiflorum 'Roseum', has remained just two stems for a number of years.  The flowers age an even deeper pink.  I have a small crop of 2-year seedlings coming along from John Lonsdale seed.

cohan's picture

Sun, 05/27/2012 - 10:06am

Looking for advice on soil for Trilliums- as I mentioned, I think its T erectum and grandiflorum seedlings I have-- how much organic material should the soil have, and what about issues of drainage, moisture retention? Most of my woodland plantings will be at the moister end of the property, and natural soils are a fairly thin layer of humus over a clayey soil (most perennials etc do fine in our soil unamended) but I am also working on some low berms in the area that are part soil part leaf/grass compost, and developing another bed on a site that was used for dumping leaves, grass, sticks and bits of wood, a bit of old potting soil etc (and some junk like old pots and plastic I have to pick out!) which I think will end up being somewhat raised and quite loose and humusy....

bulborum's picture

Mon, 05/28/2012 - 2:19am

Here is some correspondence about Trillium erectum Beige

it seems to be not a valid name
but just used in the commerce

I took away the .nl against spambots

Roland

Caroline Dean via science.uu

17:14 (17 uren geleden)

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=TRER3

http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_...

I agree, numerous references point to cultivars in commercial sale, however, scientific documentation for “Trillium erectum f. Beige“ is elusive

RADean

I can't recall ever hearing of that name being published as a valid name. However I haven't done a real literature search for that specific epithet.

Richard

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Bulborum Botanicum wrote:

Is there someone who knows where the name Trillium erectum f. Beige comes from

Roland

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bulborum's picture

Mon, 05/28/2012 - 7:22am

Addition to Trillium erectum Beige

This mail just arrived

Roland

Quote:

In my earlier post, I may have given the impression that I was just remembering that I bought T. erectum beige from Arrowhead Alpines (AA) in 1995.  But this is directly from a copy of their 1995 catalog:

"TRILLIUM ERECTUM BEIGE"

A fairly unusual erectum that may have some hybrid parentage

Considering that the price for three of these plants was $6.00 in 1995 (inexpensive even for that time),  I am guessing it possible that AA obtained them from Tennessee collections and, per John Lonsdale's observation, those collectors may have sent their name along with the plants.

As I was rummaging through my old records for an older catalog, my wife, Joan, thought I was finally about to put all that "junk" out for recycling.  I was not, and I could not find an older catalog for AA.  That leaves us with the 1995 AA catalog as the oldest "documented" use of the term which, I agree, most likely merely refers to the off-white color.

Jerry Hudgens  

bulborum's picture

Mon, 05/28/2012 - 2:40pm

No I didn't
I couldn't find an answer where the name T erectum BEIGE came from

cohan's picture

Mon, 05/28/2012 - 11:15pm
Lis wrote:

cohan wrote:

Looking for advice on soil for Trilliums- as I mentioned, I think its T erectum and grandiflorum seedlings I have--

Don't know if you got any reply.... as far as I can see, T. grandiflorum is pretty easy-going. It does like (need) sun in the spring but I have it growing in masses in woodsy soil, in clay, in marshy soil, even among rocks with little or no soil. It needs good drainage later in the season as it spends a long time dormant. T. erectum is a little fussier; it likes more shade and more moisture but still good drainage in the later summer and the winter.

Your slightly raised woodsy beds sound perfect!

Thanks, Lis! There seem to be quite a few seedlings in each pot (I sowed them in wide not too deep hanging baskets-8inches? expecting them to be some time to planting out0, so I can try a couple of spots; all still just at single small leaf stage, though I think the seeds were sown fall 2009 from Gardens North moist packs; Some Hepatica sown at the same time are just starting to look like real plants with several leaves :) and Corydalis nobilis, also same time, are 6 inches high or more,  huge by comparison!

Toole's picture

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 12:59am

A couple pics of the first Trillium in bloom here  :)

T.angustipetalum.

A number of pots of different Trillium rivale forms are in bud needing a few days of warmth.

Cheers Dave.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 6:11am

Excellent, Dave!  Not very angusti-folium (narrow-leaf), is it.
  Maybe we should rename it angusti-florum...  ;)  Either way, might cool!  8)

I would have expected T. rivale to be closely related to T. nivale, and thus blooming very, very early.  I guess you just never know with mother nature.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 1:07pm

I am needing a few days of warmth too!

Rick, they're already named angusti-petalum!

Nice Dave! It is still 1/2 year till I can enjoy mine . . .

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 1:46pm
Hoy wrote:

Rick, they're already named angusti-petalum!

Well, to make what would be a long story short: I should have just re-read that post. Our "embarrassed" emoticon should have a red face... :-[

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:47pm
RickR wrote:

Hoy wrote:

Rick, they're already named angusti-petalum!

Well, to make what would be a long story short: I should have just re-read that post. Our "embarrassed" emoticon should have a red face... :-[

Rick, you are forgiven  ;)  I don't know your long story but I have a tendency to read what I think it is and not actually what it is  ;D

It seems to be a species named T. angustifolium - without narrow leaves too ;D

bulborum's picture

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 11:53pm

You mean Trifolium angustifolium  ;D

Roland

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 7:55am

That, in fact, is part of the long story.  It seems there is (was) a Trillium angustifolium that is considered a synonym of a different trillium variety (T. pusillium http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-290554 ).  And even at a glance, when I quickly googled T. angustifolium, up pops a pic that looks just like Dave's plant (and wrongly named, of course).

And blah, blah...
Glad we got that straightened out! ;D

Toole's picture

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 1:01am

A few Trillium rivales are just showing colour .
The first two show similar markings however each have a different petal shape .

The last two pics are of Uk seed sown 2006.

Cheers Dave.

cohan's picture

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 10:04am

All great all round plants, Dave.. the different forms on the rivale are nice!

Toole's picture

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 2:16am

Thanks guys

Been a good summer/autumn for Trillium germination --a few months on and cotyledon growth is evident ,with a few seedlings in their second year..
Pic shows about half of the pots of this years success.

Cheers Dave.

bulborum's picture

Wed, 09/05/2012 - 3:12am

Dave

It looks if you soon need a much bigger garden  ;D

Roland

Toole's picture

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 2:07am
bulborum wrote:

Dave

It looks if you soon need a much bigger garden  ;D

Roland

;D ;D

Actually i underestimated Roland ....my earlier pic only shows a third of the germinated pots.

Here's a few images from today.

Cheers Dave.

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