It seems hard to believe that I'm starting a fern thread; I'm a total fern newbie! I love ferns, it's just that I know almost nothing about them, and until the last few years with some trees gaining size and shading effect, my sun-scorched hillside location was not very fern-friendly.
When I extended my deck, I wondered if ferns could be grown at the foot of the east-facing deck, getting full sun all morning but shaded from early afternoon and after. I worried because from 10:00 AM - 1:00 PM, it still gets blazing hot there. So I chose two ferns as guinea pigs, a hopeful guess on my part that ferns could survive this particular man-made position with only partial shade, but most importantly, shaded from the hottest afternoon sun. In 4 years hence, it seems to have worked out rather well; I'm prepared to put more ferns in a "decks edge fern row".
The two ferns chosen were Athyrium filix-femina 'Lady in Red', a showy selection from the New England Wildflower Society, and Dryopteris filix-mas 'Grandiceps Wills', a Male Fern selection with small pinnae crests and larger terminal crests. Both have done very well, although 'Lady in Red' can show some frond burn in the hottest weather... in fact I'm showing a photo of some burn, taken recently after a few days approaching 100 degrees Fahrenheit, but it's really minimal and does not seem to harm the overall vigor and beauty of the fern.
Please tell me about your favorite shade-loving ferns! And someone, please start a thread on sun-loving or xeric ferns.








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Trond Hoy
Re: Ferns
Fri, 02/24/2012 - 10:51pmHi Geoffrey, I am not sure which ferns i grow! I just buy those I like or sow spores and plant out everywhere I think they fit in! Maybe I should make an inventory of my ferns ;D
Geo F-W (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Sat, 02/25/2012 - 3:19amWell Rick, Dryopteris tokyoensis grows in wet and acidic soil in its natural habitat. Here she seems to be happy in my cool and neutral soil, and it's approximately 90cm (35 inches). So it is surely drought that blocks growth indeed.
Mark, I often planted in the fall here because the winters are never very strict (except there are about ten days here where the freezing weather has hit us ...), but the plants I really afraid of losing, I always plant in the spring. Plants are more established when winter comes.
Otherwise, in addition to the Hardy Fern Foundations, there is the American Fern Society ( http://amerfernsoc.org/ ) and the British Pteridological Society (http://www.nhm.ac.uk/hosted_sites/bps/), and there are others.
I often look at these two blogs (http://varenplanten.blogspot.com/ and http://varenbos.blogspot.com/), a Dutch ferns-lover, which transforms a forest in southern France, in Ardèche, in a woodland of ferns.
Hoy, if you grow lots of ferns, it might be interesting to inventory them indeed! ^ ^ It could be funny!
Harold Peachey
Re: Ferns
Sat, 02/25/2012 - 4:59amMark,
Two of the best sources for ferns are on the west coast, Sue Olsen http://www.foliagegardens.com/ and Judith the fern lady http://www.fancyfronds.com/list.cfm. Fancy Fronds has a large selection of ferns hardy in our region. I am growing Dropteris tokyoensis in my garden and Ellen Hornig had some magnificant specimens in her garden at Oswego. You should be able to grow all the hardy Athyriums, spring planting is recommended. Adiantum venustum grows like a week here, but Adiantum aleuticum subpumillum that I have started from spore struggles to barely survive, I keep trying possible sittings to encourage it.
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Ferns
Sat, 02/25/2012 - 6:12amThanks Geoffrey, regarding D. tokyoensis. Unfortunately I hardly even have any constantly moist areas, let alone wet. Oh well. The maple was hit late in the year by a severe case of verticillium wilt, so maybe it will completely go...
Trond Hoy
Re: Ferns
Sat, 02/25/2012 - 2:38pmInteresting to have it - not to do it ;)
In my work I have a lot of paper work - or laptop work these days so I try to avoid it in my spare time (forum time don't count ;) )
Jan Jeddeloh
Re: Ferns
Sat, 03/03/2012 - 5:52pmGeoffrey, that Adiantum pedatum "Japonicum" is stunning. Any chance of spore next year? Hint, Hint. I even have an import permit and I've been fairly successful growing ferns from spore. I use the peat pellet method because it's stupid simple. It even seems to work for dryland ferns but you must transplant the prothallia early. I start them all under lights inside.
Right now I've got at least half a dozen varieties coming from spore. I'd post them but I have COL (cat on lap ) so I can't go down and check. I know I have Woodwardia fimbriata, Polystichum vestitum, Doodia aspera at least to prothalia stage right now. My greenhouse has Polypodium hesperium and Asplenum trichomanes plumosum coming along. I also just repotted my Cyathea milnei babies. Most of those are traveling north to the WWSW to be given to a friend who lives on the coast (mild enough to grow it) and Judith Jones.
Jan
Geo F-W (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Sun, 03/04/2012 - 7:53amJan, here I use plastic mini-greenhouses and sowing on sterilized leaf mold. I would have tried with xerics ferns.
Yes, I suppose I should have spores of Adiantum aleuticum (pedatum) 'Japonicum', in truth, I've never tried to sow many Adiantum (Adiantum hispidulum this year, so far all goes well, the prothallia are there, still no initial frond).
I do not know, me neither, precisely the species that I sowed this year...There are some species I have sowed for the fun as Gleichenia quadripartita, Blechnum minus, Lastreopsis hispida, Blechnum niponicum etc..
Others are quite common, many different Asplenium scolopendrium, Asplenium x ebenoides, Dryopteris wallichiana, cycadina, crassirhizoma, odontoloma, Athyrium otophorum, Hypolepis glanduligera, Dryopteris coreano-montana, some Pteris (many form of P.cretica, umbrosa, wallichiana, vittata etc.) etc.
All are currently at the stage of prothalli, some first fronds begin to appear.
I had some problems in some mini-greenhouses with white rot...Hard to get contamination under control in a mini-greenhouse.
I'd love to plant Polystichum vestitum here, it's an absolutely beautiful fern, but I'm a little afraid of damages due to cold.
Tim Ingram (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Mon, 03/05/2012 - 3:25amI must go to check my plant of Polystichum vestitum. Our climate is probably not much different to Geoffrey but the polystichum has probably not done so well because I have it in a place that is just too dry. I grow quite a few polystichums and find them generally very tolerant of our garden, and extremely attractive. One mountain species, stenophyllum, grows on a raised bed with alpines, and really makes me think I should try more such small species.
Geo F-W (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 5:39amI think your climate is slightly warmer than here (-11.8 ° C this year) Tim.
If you like small ferns in rockery, you should try the Pellaea. They are little beauties, Pellaea atropurpurea, Pellaea rotundifolia (which is often sold as indoor plant, but fits comfortably in the outdoors in pots or in rockery, the sun), Pellaea falcata (ditto).
Cryptogramma crispa is also a good rockery fern, not necessarily easy to culture, it grows on acid rocks.
Woodsia polystichoides is not bad either.
Tim Ingram (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 9:46amYes I think I will definitely try some of these smaller ferns. Rachel Lever at Aberconwy Nursery has been growing many of these, especially the Cheilanthes. It would be nice to hear more of people's experiences growing them in the garden, but I imagine few people do. I haven't tried Pellaea species, so will certainly look out for these.
cohan (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 3:52pm-11.8 sounds positively sub-tropical to me ;D
Those small rockery ferns are very interesting for sure! Be sure to share anyone who has or gets any!
I've mentioned before becoming very fascinated with small ferns growing in seasonally/dry places in Mexico/Central America along with succulents such as Echeveria! would love to get some of those to grow indoors with succulents, but have not found any :(
Tim Ingram (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:45pmLis - I would certainly be interested in spores. I did join the British Pteridological Society mainly so I could try a wider range of ferns from spores, but so far haven't really started growing many. They are a group (the rock ferns) that I would very like to propagate as we develop the nursery again, and I used to grow a number of cheilanthes. These, however, are generally difficult outside here so it's good to hear of experiences with other small ferns.
Trond Hoy
Re: Ferns
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 8:57amI can collect spores of Asplenium septentrionale if anybody is interested. And Lis, Cryptogramma crispa is very common here - I haven't tried it in the garden - but if you need more spores that's easy to get hold of!
cohan (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 10:52amCool one, Trond!
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Ferns
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 8:35pmI don't know what to think about a fern that tricks me into thinking it is a grass... :-\
cohan (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Sun, 03/11/2012 - 5:29pmThat's what I said ;D I always like plants that don't look like they are supposed to :)
Trond Hoy
Re: Ferns
Mon, 03/12/2012 - 1:45amLis, I have a better idea: I'll send you some when the spores ripen. Then you don't need to use your quota in the seedex.
Tim Ingram (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:11pmA little plant of Woodsia obtusa just unfurling its new fronds on the sand bed. This is growing in a carpet of Raoulia australis and makes a nice contrast to other plants on the bed.
cohan (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 11:36pmNice one, Tim!
Trond Hoy
Re: Ferns
Tue, 04/10/2012 - 10:20amNever seen this one before, seems to be a nice species!
Trond Hoy
Re: Ferns
Tue, 05/08/2012 - 10:43amLis, still interested in spores?
BTW, here is a strange one I found:
Mark McDonough
Re: Ferns
Wed, 05/09/2012 - 5:02pmTim, a belated response, but I do like the Woodsia species very much, must add some to the garden.
Adiantum pedatum is a joy to watch as the fronds unfurl, I love the pattern of airy filigree leaves as they first expand.
Harold Peachey
Re: Ferns
Thu, 05/10/2012 - 2:16amHoy, your strange one looks more like Adiantum than Asplenium, although no idea which one
Trond Hoy
Re: Ferns
Thu, 05/10/2012 - 3:36amHarold, I agree to that but no Adianum is native to Norway and the place I found them is very far from any garden.
Lis, I have some spores now and two small plants also. Please PM me!
The strange one had signs of sori but they looked rather empty. I'll keep an eye on it!
Mark, I have one small clump of A pedatum in my garden but wanted more! Now I have a big box full of prothalliums ;)
Tim Ingram (not verified)
Re: Ferns
Fri, 05/11/2012 - 12:31amFerns must be amongst the most beautiful plants as their fronds unfurl in spring - even in our relatively dry garden we are growing more and more. At the Chelsea Show every year the fern displays are like a green oasis amongst the sea of colour (especially, in the past, Rickard's stand) - perfect time to display them in mid-May. This is one of the Dryopteris unfurling under the apple trees in the garden. So different to the delicate beauty of the Adiantum.
Trond Hoy
Re: Ferns
Tue, 05/22/2012 - 1:28pmHere is Athyrium othophorum 'Okanum' unfurling.
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