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Just starting to flower is Jeffersonia dubia, fun to watch as they emerge, the foliage is beet red and rubbery looking (Photo 1). My plants are from a good dark color form, just opening their first couple blooms... flower color is deeper than what the photo captured. However, I wanted to showcase a form that Darrell Probst collected, CPC 3.10.97 (Cobblewood Plant Collection), selected on account of it's dark flowers (although my normal form are darker) and the red seed pods. In full flower on 04-04-2010, I note some other differences: the ovary is red (green in other dubia forms) and the stamens dark tipped (light color in other dubia forms).

Sun is very strong today, and my daughter's cheap entry-level Nikon Coolpix does a terrible job with white or light-colored flowers, and after several tries, settled on these washed out looking photos, but it is the best I can do. In the last photo, I used a sun baffle to tone down the bright light.

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Woodard's picture

Wed, 12/01/2010 - 9:13am

I do have more photos of plants in Korea, both in cultivation and the wild. I'll make a few posts along those lines.

Trond, I know that the botanical garden is irrigated and watered regularly, and also the Korean peninsula is under the influence of summer monsoon, which means plenty of moisture during some of the hottest months. Presumably even when the plants' vegetative growth is dormant they benefit from not drying out completely. Other than that I don't know, but they are propagated from local/native stock so that probably helps too.

Mark, I only have J. diphylla at present, though it is certainly not because I don't want to grow J. dubia! It's just pure laziness or a lack of making it a priority. :-[  It's among several 'must haves' that I should make a priority very soon. J. diphylla grows near the garden naturally, and my plants are sourced from those colonies. I haven't given much attention to variation but will make a point to look closer next spring.

Paul T's picture

Mon, 01/31/2011 - 8:53pm

Stunning clumps of Jeffersonia everyone.  I grow both dubia and diphylla here, but haven't had the guts to try them out in the ground much yet as they're so rare here.  I've had a few flowers on the dubia and only a single flower so far on diphylla.  I hope to one day flower them well as a clump, but in my climate I think I am probably going to battle to do it.  Thank you all so much for the wonderful pics.

Gene Mirro's picture

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 8:14pm

If anyone can spare some fresh seed of J. dubia, I would love to grow some.  Please send me a personal message.  Thanks.

Sat, 04/09/2011 - 5:06pm
Gene wrote:

If anyone can spare some fresh seed of J. dubia, I would love to grow some.  Please send me a personal message.  Thanks.

Hi Gene, I'd be happy to send you some when they're ready.  The seed is ephemeral and should be sown shortly after the late spring harvest.  But if you depend on me remembering to send seed, it'll probably never happen, so feel free to send me a reminder message to me in late May to early June.  I also recommend putting your Jeffersonia dubia seed request in the Plant and Seed Swap topic, that way it won't be lost among a general topic :)
http://nargs.org/smf/index.php?board=70.0

cohan's picture

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 5:45pm

Really nice looking plants! Not a genus I've seen much of--just the occasional mention on the forums, but after seeing Joseph's pics from Korea, I had to go back and look at the whole thread..
I'm curious to see which species Lori is growing?

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 5:59pm

Depending on one's taxonomic outlook, there are only two species, American J. dyphylla and Asian J. dubia.  However, the name of the Asian species was changed to the ugly name of Plagiorhegma dubium  (sounds like a skin disease), leaving Jeffersonia and Plagiorhegma each as monotypic genera.

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 6:31pm
McDonough wrote:

the name of the Asian species was changed to the ugly name of Plagiorhegma dubium

Not liking that. 

I guess that shows that our attempted (now generic) crosses all the less likely...

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 6:37pm
RickR wrote:

McDonough wrote:

the name of the Asian species was changed to the ugly name of Plagiorhegma dubium

Not liking that. 

I guess that shows that our attempted (now generic) crosses all the less likely...

According to Darrell Probst, the cross between the two species if perfectly possible, and has been done, but I know of no particulars.  These plants may not care about the human-imposed nomenclature genus shift.  Time will tell ;)

Lori S.'s picture

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 8:01pm
cohan wrote:

I'm curious to see which species Lori is growing?

I have a couple of Jeffersonia dubia but (the plant formerly known as  :rolleyes:) J. diphylla is also hardy here.  I thought I had acquired it once but it turned out I'd bought another J. dubia. (Doh!)

EDIT:  Ooops, I got that backwards... it's J. dubia that I will have to relabel in all my records!

cohan's picture

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 9:45pm

So, 2 more to add to the list then...lol

Sun, 04/17/2011 - 9:26pm

Jeffersonia are awakening, ready to flower.  A bit too overcast, cold and windy for the blooms to open, but maybe in another day or two.  On the left is J. diphylla with ephemeral emergence in fleshy red-purple tones, and on the right, the Korean form of J. dubia with even deeper ruddiness and rich lavender flowers held closed from the cold.

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 6:30pm
Hoy wrote:

Beautiful, Mark, both of them!

Thanks Trond, these are nice plants that I'm particularly fond of.  I also like their early flowering, blooming at the same time as Corydalis solida and Pulmonarias, both of which have started.

A few more views on this relatively mild sunny (but windy) early spring day, a State holiday in Massachusetts (Patriot's Day, and the running of the Boston Marathon).  Thought I'd share a few more photos, as I have to wait until next weekend to see them again.

Two views of the Korean form of J. dubia, in the second photo you get a peek at the red ovaries (typically they are yellowish green).

Two view of regular J. dubia, although my plants came from a friend and nearby gardener Marsha Russell, who had some darker colors. Today, the first flowers actually opened.

A small grouping of Jeffersonia diphylla in my woods.  I fear I shall miss their fleeting 1-3 day bloom period this year, now that I'm back to working.

cohan's picture

Mon, 04/18/2011 - 11:24pm

Gorgeous, Mark!
I'm a latecomer to awareness of these plants, but find them very charming indeed!

On the subject of spring ephemerals, does anyone know of a seed source for this sort of thing? (woodlanders, spring things etc) Kristl has some ephemerals, and we know her methods are reliable..... any others that aren't simply people selling seed of doubtful validity in fall/winter?

Tue, 04/19/2011 - 8:31pm

I typically have lots of seed of both species; happy to share moist-packed seed which must be sown upon receipt.

Howey's picture

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 4:49am

Hi Mark:  Could you please add my name to the list for Jeffersonia dubia seed?  I too have J. diphylla and have been admiring its slow motion and eye catching emergence and will probably have plenty of seeds to give away when the time comes.  I expect J.dubia seed could be planted nearby - would have same requirements as to soil and exposure?  Fran Howey
Frances Howey
London, Ontario, Canada
Zone 5b

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 7:24pm
Howey wrote:

Hi Mark:  Could you please add my name to the list for Jeffersonia dubia seed?  I too have J. diphylla and have been admiring its slow motion and eye catching emergence and will probably have plenty of seeds to give away when the time comes.  I expect J.dubia seed could be planted nearby - would have same requirements as to soil and exposure?  Fran Howey
Frances Howey
London, Ontario, Canada
Zone 5b

Sure thing Fran.  And yes, the two species like similar habitat, although the American J. diphylla will sail through more drought than J. dubia.  I haven't lost any J. dubia to drought, but the leaves tend to collapse much more easily in dry weather than diphylla.

Wed, 04/20/2011 - 11:34pm
McDonough wrote:

I typically have lots of seed of both species; happy to share moist-packed seed which must be sown upon receipt.

;D ;D ;D

Gene Mirro's picture

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 3:13pm

I planted some J. dubia seed from the NARGS (received 1/11, lot #1694) on 3/20/11 in an unheated greenhouse.  This was moist-packed seed.  It is germinating now (4/21/11).  I did not give it an initial warm period.  I assumed the moist packing took care of that.  Temperatures varied from 32F at night to 70F during the day.

This seed has very erratic germination.  I have some that are germinating two years after being sown.  It may have something to do with whether the seed has been dried.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 9:55pm
Gene wrote:

I planted some J. dubia seed from the NARGS (received 1/11, lot #1694) on 3/20/11 in an unheated greenhouse.  This was moist-packed seed.  It is germinating now (4/21/11).  I did not give it an initial warm period.  I assumed the moist packing took care of that.  Temperatures varied from 32F at night to 70F during the day.

This seed has very erratic germination.  I have some that are germinating two years after being sown.  It may have something to do with whether the seed has been dried.

Gene, I think you're right about the seed being dried creating the condition of erratic germination.  I believe the seed is best treated as ephemeral, like Epimedium, needing to be sown "in the green" as soon as the seed is ripe, then one gets fairly uniform germination the following spring after a long winter freeze.  Last year, as an experiment (and as a desire to greatly increase my Jeffersonia stock), in late spring 2010 I collected gobs of J. dubia seed, then made a new planting area in my shady woodland garden beds, an area 4' wide by about 4-1/2' long, and sowed J. dubia seed thickly through the area.  The seed was patted down on the soil, and covered with a thin layer of well decomposed pine bark mulch.  I checked today, and the area is thick with seedlings just emerging, I'm so excited.  There will many hundreds (thousands?) of plants.  I'll post some pics as soon as the seedlings get large enough to be photographed.

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 10:03pm

Hard not to fixate on Jeffersonia, they're in their prime at the moment, most J. dubia in full bloom, but a few flowers on J. diphylla opening too.  Here are a few more photos of J. dubia.  In one view, you'll see that the forms I have are variable in flower color, some are of a good deep blue-lavender color.

One more view of a Korean form of J. dubia.  This form flowers before the others, and has flowers that are more fleeting.  Notice a self sown seedling on the left and bottom edges of the photo.

cohan's picture

Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:44pm

Gorgeous, Mark!
Congrats on the new seedlings! a big patch would be wonderful :)

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 6:20pm

So pretty Mark! Mine are just showing above soil...but just the promise of them is so exciting! Have you ever divided them? I would love to make my small swath of them a large one  ;D

Mon, 04/25/2011 - 7:03pm

Given the rain we've had, I'm amazed that I've been able to get any pictures of anything for the past week of so, but I did manage a decent of my J. dubia and one of my J. diphylla just about to open. Hopefully it won't rain tomorrow, and the latter beauty will open its flowers for long enough for me to take a picture or two. I've had the J. diphylla for about 5 years, and it's got about 5 or 6 seedlings growing around it, one of which actually bloomed this year.  The J. dubia has been with me for 3 years, and has yet to produce any seedlings.

[MMcD note: photo labels were reversed, I downloaded and re-uploaded the renamed photos :)]

Tony Willis's picture

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 1:07am

Mark and Peter the diphylla are really lovely,I have only seen white ones over here,never blue similar to dubia. The Epimedium book gives them as only white.

Tony, see the correction above, the photo names were reversed, but it has been fixed :)  Jeffersonia diphylla only comes in white, but I'm currently getting good germination on my attempted 2010 hybrid crosses between the two species (both ways), who knows, maybe we'll eventually see a blue diphylla-like Jeffersonia ;D

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 8:04am

Thank you, Mark. The rapid and profound diminishment in my cognitive processes is worrisome, but hopefully will end when I get through this negotiation and manage to sell my company. A bit of sun might help too.

Tony Willis's picture

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 9:20am

Oh dear Mrs W. and I were getting very excited and an email was about to wing its way across asking for seed. We shall manage to live with our disappointment.

We look forward to seeing the hybrids.

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:28am

With ephemeral spring flowers a lot can change in just 1 week.  Our spring was slow to warm up this year, but in the past week with mild temperatures and rain, and some very warm sunny days, plants are "leaping" out of the ground.  I also realize, now that I'm back to being a working man (as opposed to unemployed), that I would have never have had the chance to experience the fleeting flowers on Jeffersonia as I did last year, nor would it have been possible to play around with attempting to hybridize the two species.  

A couple Jeffersonia garden views, J. dubia in the first, J. diphylla in the second.  Lots of Dicentra cuccularia spreading everywhere; am getting worried about this one.

Two views of Jeffersonia diphylla, photos caught in an early morning dash before going to work.

Last year I collected lots of seed on J. dubia, prepared an area approximately 4' x 5', and sowed the seed in place, covering with a thin layer of decomposed pine bark mulch. The seedlings are coming up thick now.  As it is, seedlings are appearing here, there, and everywhere, what a wonderful "weed" to have ;D

Spring 2010 I also made crosses between J. dubia x diphylla, and the reverse, J. diphylla x dubia.  Seed is germinating.  First up, are J. dubia and the attempted cross... I have four flats of putative J. dubia x diphylla hybrid seedlings.  I also show a photo of two forms of J. diphylla germinating... this species germinates a bit later, so still waiting to see if any J. diphylla x dubia, and waiting for J. dubia alba to show.

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 2:18pm

I am looking forward to hear of the achievements of the crosses, Mark!

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 8:16pm

It is interesting to note (for those who haven't already) in Mark's photos, that because Jeffersonia seed is hypogeal germinating and establishes a root system before topgrowth, the first leaf to emerge is a true leaf, and not a cotyledon.  It make them especially cute.  :)

Lori S.'s picture

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 8:31pm

Very interesting, Rick.  I would never have realized that!

The state of J. dubia in my yard... finally above ground!

Thu, 05/05/2011 - 3:36pm

My J. dubia are in a race with yours Lori!  Mine look neck-in-neck to yours.  I purchased a diphylla this year but it was from BC so the flowers are lomng gone.  Still, I hope next year I can make a cross as you did Mark...I expect the hybrids would be lovely!

Gene Mirro's picture

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 6:41pm

Seed scrounger here.  Can anyone spare a few?

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 6:55pm
Gene wrote:

Seed scrounger here.  Can anyone spare a few?

Sure thing... post a reminder in about 1 month, seed of both species should be ready. :)

Lori S.'s picture

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 7:52pm

Well, I missed the bloom on Jeffersonia dubia, among other things...
This is all I got to see!  Oh well, there's always next year...  :rolleyes:
 

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 8:03pm
Skulski wrote:

Well, I missed the bloom on Jeffersonia dubia, among other things...
This is all I got to see!  Oh well, there's always next year...  :rolleyes:

Lori, at least you have some good pods developing... collect the seed and sow around the base plant immediately after harvest, and next year you too could have a carpet of seedlings showing next spring!  My sown-in-place seedlings are growing fast, cute little babies by the hundreds, some could actually bloom next year.

Lori S.'s picture

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 8:54pm

Wow, won't that be a show at your place!!
I will definitely do that.

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:02pm
Skulski wrote:

Wow, won't that be a show at your place!!
I will definitely do that.

My ultimate plan is to replace a major portion of my lawn with Jeffersonia; a Jeffersonian landscape (with both species) ;D
(and I'm not kidding!)

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 11:43pm
McDonough wrote:

Skulski wrote:

Wow, won't that be a show at your place!!
I will definitely do that.

My ultimate plan is to replace a major portion of my lawn with Jeffersonia; a Jeffersonian landscape (with both species) ;D
(and I'm not kidding!)

And you will invite us to the opening display, please? ;D

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:01am
McDonough wrote:

My ultimate plan is to replace a major portion of my lawn with Jeffersonia; a Jeffersonian landscape (with both species) ;D
(and I'm not kidding!)

That might actually work well.  I have noted how massive Jeffersonia diphylla roots are compared to the plant, and I think they would be integral in keeping other weeds out. 

Both species had a great year last season for germination as unsown volunteers.

And it's a bummer when rain seems to always seems to be prevalent when my Jeffersonia bloom.  Although it is not detrimental on diphylla, rain makes blooming dubia unphotographic.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 11:26pm

Seems you have a lot of seedlings you too, Rick!
BTW, I am sorry, Rick, but the blue Corydalis didn't set seeds. The pods were empty with just rudimentary seeds.

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 6:36pm
RickR wrote:

I have noted how massive Jeffersonia diphylla roots are compared to the plant, and I think they would be integral in keeping other weeds out. 

Both species had a great year last season for germination as unsown volunteers.

And it's a bummer when rain seems to always seems to be prevalent when my Jeffersonia bloom.  Although it is not detrimental on diphylla, rain makes blooming dubia unphotographic.

Wow, look at all them baby plants, what's your plan for these?  Potting them up for your Chapter plant sales?  I do think it would only take a few years to convert one's lawn to a Jeffersonia meadow. ;)

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 6:48pm

Jeffersonia dubia with pods.  This year, with lots and lots of cool weather and rain, plants are fattening up and growing tall.  Jeffersonia dubia plants in flower give the impression of compact tuffets covered with bloom, but later on they can grow large; mine are about 16" (40 cm) tall and they start splaying sideways in all directions with the leaf canopy opening up, with a spread of up to 2' (60 cm).

cohan's picture

Sun, 05/22/2011 - 7:11pm

Interesting to see the full grown look.. Of course here, by the time they get to that point, it would probably be fall ;)

Gene Mirro's picture

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 3:50pm

Can anyone spare some seed of Jeffersonia dubia?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 5:30pm

I've been watching the novel seed pods on Jeffersonia diphylla for nearly a month, waiting for them to ripen, as when they are ripe, they are suddenly so and quickly spill their bounty.  One can ever-so-gently squeeze the seem between the plump pipe-like base and the lid, to see if gives at all.  We had 5 days of rain, heavy at times, and this past Sunday I inspected the pods on the first sunny day since the rain, and nope... they were not ready yet.  

The following day when I got home from work, I checked, on some plants most of the pods already flipped-their-lids and spilled their load! :(  I collected what seed I could.  In the lower portion of my yard in deeper shade, the pods were still firm.  That was yesterday.  Today (tonight) when I checked those particular plants again, many pods had ruptured and spilled their contents, about half the pods flipped their lids but were still standing upright for easy collection, and just a few pods were still unopened but obviously ready... the seed all typically spills at about the same time, within a couple days.

They're attractive seeds, like small shiny popcorn kernels.  Notice that the pod on the right is a fused or double pod with back-to-back chambers and lids, although no party wall between the chambers.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 9:41pm

Kinda like a double yoke, Mark.  :D

The last of my Jeffersonia diphylla pods began to open today.  I would have expected them to be later compare to yours, Mark, since your season starts so much earlier.  I did three protected, hand pollinated crosses of J. diphylla x J. dubia, and they all took.  Seeds look very healthy.  One pod did spill out before I got to it, but I think I salvaged about half of them.  None of my J. dubia x J. diphylla crosses were successful.  I'm not surprised: the weather was really crummy at the time.

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