Narcissus 2012

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I think there've been daffodil pics in the "spring bulbs" threads already but this is definitely NOT a spring bulb - Narcissus viridiflorus, the autumn flowering, green (jonquil) daffodil! It's hardy for us and grows best in an unwatered part of the rock garden.
cheers
fermi

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Trond Hoy

Fri, 03/30/2012 - 1:25am

It is astrange one! I have considered trying it but believe it needs drier climate.
Does it have scent, Fermi?

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Fermi de Sousa

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 7:27pm
Hoy wrote:

It is a strange one! I have considered trying it but believe it needs drier climate.
Does it have scent, Fermi?

It has a scent similar to some jonquills or tazettas, fairly strong but not unpleasant.
The other autumn flowerer I have is Narcissus serotinus but I believe it's now called N. obsoletus!
cheers
fermi

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Mark McDonough

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 7:45pm

I have seen the threads on SRGC about autumn blooming Narcissus; they're so different, rather strange looking things, that I'm amazed that these haven't been broken off to become a separate genus.  I like the "weird and wonderful" and I'm intrigued by them.  I'm not sure why, but when I see these in bloom, I'm reminded of Tulbaghia, another genus with unlikely looking plants.

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Richard T. Rodich

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 8:51pm

Narcissus viridiflorus is very cool  8).  If I could grow it here, I'd seek it out.

Your plants are really superb, Fermi!  :o

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Tony Willis (not verified)

Thu, 04/19/2012 - 8:33am

two forms of Narcissus alpestris. The white one is the usual one and the yellow is one I found amongst hundreds of white ones.It  is slowly increasing and is now three bulbs after eight years.

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Trond Hoy

Thu, 04/19/2012 - 11:48am

They're lovely, Tony. Do they have a scent which go with them too?

I have never tried this species either, how hardy is it outside? I am always looking for plants which are deer resistant and all daffodils seem to be!

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Tony Willis (not verified)

Thu, 04/19/2012 - 12:47pm
Hoy wrote:

They're lovely, Tony. Do they have a scent which go with them too?

I have never tried this species either, how hardy is it outside? I am always looking for plants which are deer resistant and all daffodils seem to be!

Trond

It is an alpine plant in the Pyrenees and so will be worth trying. I do not grow it outside because my problem is not cold but wet.

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bulborum (not verified)

Thu, 04/19/2012 - 1:06pm

Many daffodils can handle a lot of moisture
not sure for this one
but I found N. pallidiflorus on a slope
in a few cm running water

Roland

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Trond Hoy

Thu, 04/19/2012 - 2:05pm
Tony wrote:

Hoy wrote:

They're lovely, Tony. Do they have a scent which go with them too?

I have never tried this species either, how hardy is it outside? I am always looking for plants which are deer resistant and all daffodils seem to be!

Trond

It is an alpine plant in the Pyrenees and so will be worth trying. I do not grow it outside because my problem is not cold but wet.

Thanks Tony. Here at my summerhouse it is much drier climate than at home so it is worth trying!

bulborum wrote:

Many daffodils can handle a lot of moisture
not sure for this one
but I found N. pallidiflorus on a slope
in a few cm running water

Roland

Roland, I remember from a trip to Andorra in May several years ago that I saw huge swathes of daffodils (both white and yellow) growing in very wet marsh like fields along  the rivers. Don't know the species though. I also found daffodils (very small ones) in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco growing in wet soil where the snow was melting nearby.

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Richard T. Rodich

Thu, 04/19/2012 - 2:30pm

Narcissus alpestris is very interesting, with its long "snout" and "dog ears".  The yellow is very nice, too, but especially because it seems to have more undulation on the sepals.  Very attractive!

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Tony Willis (not verified)

Thu, 04/19/2012 - 3:10pm
Hoy wrote:

Tony wrote:

Hoy wrote:

They're lovely, Tony. Do they have a scent which go with them too?

I have never tried this species either, how hardy is it outside? I am always looking for plants which are deer resistant and all daffodils seem to be!

Trond

It is an alpine plant in the Pyrenees and so will be worth trying. I do not grow it outside because my problem is not cold but wet.

Thanks Tony. Here at my summerhouse it is much drier climate than at home so it is worth trying!

bulborum wrote:

Many daffodils can handle a lot of moisture
not sure for this one
but I found N. pallidiflorus on a slope
in a few cm running water

Roland

Roland, I remember from a trip to Andorra in May several years ago that I saw huge swathes of daffodils (both white and yellow) growing in very wet marsh like fields along  the rivers. Don't know the species though. I also found daffodils (very small ones) in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco growing in wet soil where the snow was melting nearby.

Yes this is true but is very much a generalisation. In for instance the Sierra de Cazorla National Park there is one species N. longispathus growing in the streams .This is illustrated in 'Narcissus' by Blanchard and yet not many miles distant they grow in hot dry conditions. N. alpestris is in some areas truly alpine flowering by melting snow. N. serotinus in Turkey is almost a desert plant it is so hot and dry in summer whilst N. polyanthos grows in vernal marshes. I think hardiness can only be tested by experience

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bulborum (not verified)

Thu, 04/19/2012 - 3:24pm

Well Tony

I would love to try some seeds in the Humid Normandy
maybe we can swap with some N. pallidiflorus seeds

Roland

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Toole (not verified)

Wed, 07/11/2012 - 1:34am

Some of the winter Narcissus are out .

This one ,unnamed, copes easily with our so called winter --a few nights last week were -5c overnight with day temps reaching 8c.The last couple of days have reached 13c so it's been quite pleasant while rose pruning for various clients.

Cheers Dave.   

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Trond Hoy

Thu, 07/12/2012 - 10:35pm

Well, here the night temperature has fallen to 14C the last nights from 18C earlier  ;)
BTW it is a pretty Narcissus!

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Michael J Campbell (not verified)

Fri, 07/13/2012 - 3:55am

Very nice Dave.

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Toole (not verified)

Sat, 07/14/2012 - 2:31am

Thanks Trond and Michael .

Trond
Not sure we have ever reached 18c temps here at night ..... :-\  I've a feeling I'd find that very uncomfortable  :)  .

Here's another easy Narcissus --quick to increase and flowers freely .N romieuxii 'atlas gold' --taken in the rain ,unfortunately my pic doesn't show the deep yellow colour all that well .

Cheers Dave

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Trond Hoy

Sun, 07/15/2012 - 1:24pm
Toole wrote:

Thanks Trond and Michael .

Trond
Not sure we have ever reached 18c temps here at night ..... :-\  I've a feeling I'd find that very uncomfortable   :)  .

Here's another easy Narcissus --quick to increase and flowers freely .N romieuxii 'atlas gold' --taken in the rain ,unfortunately my pic doesn't show the deep yellow colour all that well .

Cheers Dave

It isn't uncomfortable till it reaches 20+!  But do you say you have rather cool summers then? And what about the sea temperature (in summer)?

I've never had any luck with N romieuxii and relatives. They dislike our wet - cold - wet winters.

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Mark McDonough

Sat, 07/28/2012 - 5:04pm
Fermi wrote:

Some more "hoops" in our garden
cheers
fermi

Cute hoops there Fermi.  Refreshing to see these after our long bout with heat, drought, and plants frying to a crisp... I long for cooler days of autumn, or next spring to see such cool-weather treats.

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Fermi de Sousa

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:45pm

Thanks, Mark,
I hope the drought and heat don't last for much longer for you guys.
This hoop is one of Rod Barwick's "Little Detective" series - called "Mondieu" for Inspector Clouseau's favourite expression!

The second is a trumpet daff which has been re-located without its label!

cheers
fermi

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Toole (not verified)

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 2:39am

Quite a number of the small Narcissus are underway down here .

Here's Narcissus 'unidentified'   :-\  ;)

Cheers Dave

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bulborum (not verified)

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 3:09am

looks as a N. cyclamineus selection
petals are not enough reflexed to be the species

Roland

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Fermi de Sousa

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 4:39pm

Dave, that looks like a good'un! ;D
Here's more N. cyclamenius hybrids in our garden:
Tracey
Jingle x Swagger (a Glenbrook Bulb Farm raised "breeder")
Little Beauty x N. cyclamenius (GBF breeder)
Topolino X N. cyclamenius (GBF)
Itzim
Glenbrook Belle

cheers
fermi

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Tim Ingram (not verified)

Tue, 08/28/2012 - 11:52pm

We are just making up a bulb order this autumn so it's good fun seeing those narcissi flowering 'down under'. They all look a bit special - I only know 'Itzim' but 'Tracey' looks a little like that lovely variety 'Jenny'.

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Toole (not verified)

Fri, 08/31/2012 - 2:04am
bulborum wrote:

looks as a N. cyclamineus selection
petals are not enough reflexed to be the species

Roland

Hello Roland
Thanks.

Sorry I should have been more articulate   :)...I knew it was a N. cyclamineus hybrid --just don't know it's full name.
The N. cyclamineus progeny do very well here .....
Here's a small sample--shots taken today.

Cheers Dave.

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Fermi de Sousa

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 1:39am

Here are more from our garden,
Kedron 7Y-O
Sailboat
Camp Hill
Timothy David
Kojak
Porth Chapel
and lastly a seedling which appeared near some 10W-W hoops from Glenbrook

cheers
fermi

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bulborum (not verified)

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 2:36am

Does someone knows a grower from Narcissus triandus albus
the true species
all my bulbs died

Roland