Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012

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Some other bulbs flowering here this winter/spring:

Colchicum triphyllum
4 x Cyclamen coum (they always remind me of colourful candy :) )
Muscari muscarimi
Colchicum luteum
Narcissus hedraeanthus
Eranthis hyemalis
Fritillaria raddeana

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WimB's picture

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:26am
McDonough wrote:

My goodness Wim, that's a bounty of Eranthis hyemalis, soon you'll have no grass left ;)

I wouldn't mind that, Mark. Less grass to cut!  ;)

Tim Ingram's picture

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 2:24am

A nice wild-type form of Hyacinthus orientalis, which retains an elegance that many of the hybrid selections lack.

Tim Ingram's picture

Sat, 03/24/2012 - 1:36am

We have a bed in the middle of the lawn that has gradually developed into one dominated by bulbs. The idea came from visiting Sissinghurst where there is a stunning bulb walk, under pleached limes, which has to be one of the most beautiful plantings ever in April. Ours is more modest!

It is good fun though and is just beginning to show a lot more colour (next year I will plant a lot more crocus which will extend the flowering considerably). Muscari azureum self-seeds strongly and makes nice contrast with the earliest tulip T. neustruevae. It also mixes well with Iris unguicularis 'Cretensis' and Anemone blanda. The iris is a lovely dwarf form but doesn't often flower freely. The bed has a few alpines in it too which have something of the same habit of bulbs, such as Pulsatilla halleri. Later on interest comes from small sun-loving herbaceous plants like Eryngium bourgatii, Acanthus dioscoridis and many sedums. The bed is in the middle of the lawn so could easily be extended...!

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 8:42am

I'll second that motion, what a nice idea to have a naturalized bulb bed with other plants included.  But I too wonder about maintenance of such a bed.

In the last couple years 3 different types of invasive grasses have taken a foothold in the garden.  Last year, with the new job that I have, and needing to work most weekends, parts of the garden, particularly my "Allium garden" are a disaster, the grasses with aggressive underground rhizomes romping far and wide in every direction, that I fear the only solution is to dig up the whole thing, extract the good plants from amongst the invading network of rhizomes, and rebuild the garden.  But given no change in my current utterly crazy job, and so far the inability to find a different more normal job, it looks like this year will be even more disasterous for parts of the garden.

cohan's picture

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 4:11pm

Love those white Crocus, Trond!

Tim, the bulb walk is nice! Can we see an overview to get an idea of how it fits into/is separated from the lawn?

externmed's picture

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 4:50pm

Mark,
Re rampaging grasses, I haven't had the courage yet myself, but you might try one of the grass killers that is sold to be used "over the top" of other plants.
Even Round-Up seems to kill grass better than most plants.  Doesn't touch Veronica "Georgia Blue" and I've deliberately hit it 4 times.

Otherwise you might focus Round - Up on tufts of grass and hope it translocates.

Charles Swanson MA USA

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 5:01pm

Charles, I'm with you, I don't have the courage to try chemicals like that. 

The grasses are so intertwined with the plants, it seems hard to believe that a dousing of some chemical wouldn't also risk damaging the plants.  I think I'm going to use this unfortunate infiltration of grasses as motivation to revamp parts of the garden.  In year 2000, I did exactly that to my main "Allium garden", totally redid it after it was claimed by blackberries, tree seedlings and such, all due to neglect; available time perpetually denied by a demanding job and ridiculous daily commute that steals away my life.

WimB's picture

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 7:19am

Some spring-bulbs in flower over here:

Corydalis solida 'Frodo'
Erythronium dens-canis 'Pink Perfection'
Narcissus 'Jetfire'
Narcissus 'Toby the First'
Corydalis solida 'Falls of Nimrodel'
Erythronium dens-canis 'Old Aberdeen'
Erythronium dens-canis 'Charmer'
Erythronium oregonum subsp. leucandrum
Hyacinthoides italica

Sat, 04/21/2012 - 7:15pm

Spring is nearly passing me by, just no time with my ridiculous work schedule, so I'm late in responding to topics on the forum.

Wim, I am certainly charmed by Erythronium dens-canis 'Charmer', the genus overall is such a wonderful one full of the most elegant bulbous plants ever, yet, aside from my utterly non-blooming running E. americanum, I don't have any of these beauties in my garden, something I need to remedy.  Also, I really like Corydalis solida 'Nimrodel', unusual to have a pale face to the deep color blooms.

Trond, nice variety to your Corydalis solida forms.

Here's one that I grow in full sun, where it has slowly built up into a large clump, Leucojum aestivum. I like that it blooms much later than snowdrops and L. vernum.  It's tall too, so makes an impression in the garden.  I didn't include an overall view of the plant, as the area is a weedy mess still awaiting spring cleanup :rolleyes:

bulborum's picture

Sat, 04/21/2012 - 10:39pm
McDonough wrote:

I didn't include an overall view of the plant, as the area is a weedy mess still awaiting spring cleanup :rolleyes:

Mark

Sounds as our garden after the plant-shows  ;D

R

Sun, 04/22/2012 - 1:05am
McDonough wrote:

Spring is nearly passing me by, just no time with my ridiculous work schedule, so I'm late in responding to topics on the forum.

Here's one that I grow in full sun, where it has slowly built up into a large clump, Leucojum aestivum. I like that it blooms much later than snowdrops and L. vernum.  It's tall too, so makes an impression in the garden.  I didn't include an overall view of the plant, as the area is a weedy mess still awaiting spring cleanup :rolleyes:

Spring is definitely not over yet, not here anyway, as we have half a year spring, 1 day summer, half a year fall and a week of winter ;D

A weedy mess?! What's that! Sounds very familiar though ;D ;D
The L aestivum is still only budding here.

Lori S.'s picture

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 12:30pm

Does this qualify as a "bulb lawn"?

       

P.S. Apologies to anyone who may be horrified by the proliferation of Scilla siberica and Puschkinia in these photos, but I have to admit that this was the goal of planting many hundreds of bulbs in the past.  :)

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 1:27pm
Lori wrote:

Does this qualify as a "bulb lawn"?

P.S. Apologies to anyone who may be horrified by the proliferation of Scilla siberica and Puschkinia in these photos, but I have to admit that this was the goal of planting many hundreds of bulbs in the past.  :)

Where is the grass?  ;)

Nobody can be horrified of this!

Lori S.'s picture

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 1:41pm
Hoy wrote:

Where is the grass?  ;)

Long gone (and not missed)!!   ;D

Hoy wrote:

Nobody can be horrified of this!

Glad to hear it!  Seeing this bloom, common though the bulbs are, is part of the whole magic of spring for us!

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 1:57pm
Lori wrote:

Hoy wrote:

Where is the grass?  ;)

Long gone (and not missed)!!   ;D

Hoy wrote:

Nobody can be horrified of this!

Glad to hear it!  Seeing this bloom, common though the bulbs are, is part of the whole magic of spring for us!

Common or rare - doesn't matter. One of my favorite spring plants is the "weed" coltsfoot (Tussilago farfara). However, it was more of a spring flower when I lived in Oslo than here. Still I am looking for it every spring ;D

WimB's picture

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 6:46am

Nice Ornithogalum, Roland!

Here Bellevalia romana is in flower...it seeds itself in the garden but I don't mind!

bulborum's picture

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 6:57am

Bad thing
Who wants to buy Ornithogalum
I like it but nobody buys it
I took it out of my assortiment

Nice weed Wim ;D
I know a lot worse and less attractive ones

Roland

WimB's picture

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 7:16am
bulborum wrote:

Bad thing
Who wants to buy Ornithogalum
I like it but nobody buys it
I took it out of my assortiment

I grow it, but that's probably because I have weird tastes  ;) ;)  :rolleyes:

bulborum wrote:

Nice weed Wim ;D
I know a lot worse and less attractive ones

Roland

I agree  ;)

bulborum's picture

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 7:35am

bulborum wrote:

Bad thing
Who wants to buy Ornithogalum
I like it but nobody buys it
I took it out of my assortment

I grow it, but that's probably because I have weird tastes  ;) ;)  :rolleyes:[/quote]

Probably the same for me
I sold last year 3 bulbs  :o

bulborum's picture

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 7:37am
WimB wrote:

bulborum wrote:

Bad thing
Who wants to buy Ornithogalum
I like it but nobody buys it
I took it out of my assortiment

I grow it, but that's probably because I have weird tastes  ;) ;)  :rolleyes:

bulborum wrote:

Nice weed Wim ;D
I know a lot worse and less attractive ones

Roland

I agree  ;)

Probably the same for me
I sold last year 3 bulbs  :o

cohan's picture

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 10:25am
Lori wrote:

Does this qualify as a "bulb lawn"?

P.S. Apologies to anyone who may be horrified by the proliferation of Scilla siberica and Puschkinia in these photos, but I have to admit that this was the goal of planting many hundreds of bulbs in the past.  :)

Looking great, Lori- love to see these expanses of flowers, and Scilla is a big favourite- I used to search out several nice patches in Toronto..
Roland, I think little danger to the native flora here- my mom planted some many years ago, but there was no sign of them, before long, I think they can only survive here if kept well clear  of grass and native plants!
I have some seedlings I need to make a place for, and I think some are coming up in a bed that had a very poor show last year- I think its been too wet after snowmelt, but I tried to re-direct the meltwater more this year...

bulborum's picture

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 1:58pm
cohan wrote:

Roland, I think little danger to the native flora here

Cohen it wasn't me but Rick
I am not so afraid for the nature
biggest mistake from the nature was creating humen
we destroyed the last 150 years more
as the nature build up in the last billion years  :o

Roland

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 7:26pm

Wim, a most handsome Bellevalia, a genus totally absent from my garden, need to work on that :)

Roland, I guess I'm among the few that link Ornithogalum, I find it to be an intriguing genus.

Lori, nice seas in shades of blue (Scilla & Puschkinia), I think I'm heading in this direction; that is, larger expanses of realiable color.

Here's one of my favorites; a totally reliable slow grower, Brodiaea grandiflora ssp. howellii, in my favorite color, pale milky blue.  Got a couple bulbs from Jane McGary, 8-9 years ago, and it flowers every year, atop 16-18" tall stems that sway in the breeze (requiring holding the stems to have any chance at a clear photo).  I now have some in-place-sown seedlings coming along, yay!  I didn't notice the ant on the flower until I was resizing images tonight.

cohan's picture

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 10:30pm
bulborum wrote:

cohan wrote:

Roland, I think little danger to the native flora here

Cohen it wasn't me but Rick
I am not so afraid for the nature
biggest mistake from the nature was creating humen
we destroyed the last 150 years more
as the nature build up in the last billion years  :o
Roland

Oops! Sorry, usually try to get my quotes right...lol
Yes, mother nature is probably regretting her human experiment!

BTW, I also like the Ornithogalum :) I don't have any here- just a couple SA species indoors (at least one of which is probably Albuca, anyway..lol)  .. wouldn't mind trying the hardiest one or two outdoors..

bulborum's picture

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 10:53pm

Very nice Brodiaea grandiflora ssp. howellii Mark
if you have one day some seeds or small bulbs  :rolleyes:

The Ornithogalum reverchonii survived here -13ºC in a pot
but was killed last winter at -15ºC  :(
I can pollinate a few flowers if you want

Roland

cohan's picture

Sun, 04/29/2012 - 11:04pm
bulborum wrote:

Very nice Brodiaea grandiflora ssp. howellii Mark
if you have one day some seeds or small bulbs  :rolleyes:

The Ornithogalum reverchonii survived here -13ºC in a pot
but was killed last winter at -15ºC  :(
I can pollinate a few flowers if you want

Roland

-15 is only early fall here....lol.. probably I'll have to try another-- maybe the one they call Star of Bethlehem (unless that refers to several) which I know is actually weedy in zone 4 U.S.

bulborum's picture

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:08am
bulborum wrote:

The Ornithogalum reverchonii survived here -13ºC in a pot
but was killed last winter at -15ºC  :(

Roland

The -15ºC was in a pot
what means that they can handle a lot more in the soil
snowdrops for example die earlier in a pot

Roland

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:39am

I do grow several Ornithogalums! And I try to establish some self-sowing ones in my garden. I wouldn't mind trying Bellavalia either - have tried one or two species though.
Brodiaea isn't easy here. Don't like the climate or the slugs (or the slugs like it too much probably) I assume.

However Muscari latifolia do self sow a little in the woodland but not alarmingly. Scilla liliohyacinthus also do spread. Have to remove some bulbs as they are  too crowded for maximum flowering now. Erythronium 'White Beauty' seems to like the woodland setting.

cohan's picture

Tue, 05/01/2012 - 10:26am

Roland, true about pots- many things that are hardy here will not survive sitting out in small pots.. A shocking exception is a native Ribes, which sprouted in an old hanging basket sitting on a bench under a spruce tree- so first of all, its dry most of the time, and second, completely exposed all year- and growing just fine! I'll reward it with a spot in the soil somewhere...

Trond- a little manageable spreading is exactly what you want from bulbs :) I have Muscari doing very nicely in my first 'spring bed' but its not really early here at all, flowering in June.. I guess yours flowering now is also quite a while after your early bulbs.

cohan's picture

Tue, 05/01/2012 - 11:34pm

Your late bloomers, and my earliest things are only up a couple of inches...lol Nice tulips!
I have seedlings of sprengeri to find a place to plant this year...

bulborum's picture

Tue, 05/01/2012 - 11:46pm
cohan wrote:

I have seedlings of sprengeri to find a place to plant this year...

Here the first flower-buds from T. sprengeri are just visible
I love this late tulip
you don't expect tulip flowers so late

Also Tulipa Ice Cream just starts colouring
I still don't know if I like it
It is so ugly that maybe I like it

Roland

cohan's picture

Wed, 05/02/2012 - 1:48pm

I guess too soon to say what 'Ice Cream' will look like.... Tulips are one of the few types of flowers that I don't mind seeing (some)outrageous foms on, (maybe because they are in old Dutch paintings!) although I'm not sure what I would do with them in the garden (probably nothing, unless I had a bed just for 'cottage garden' type flowers)...

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 7:50pm

Sometimes we garden according to necessity, and not in compliance with plant growth schedules: I decided I needed to rid this part of the garden of infesting Quack grass where Tulipa tarda was clearly not wanting to go dormant yet.  

           A pic taken of the tulips back on 24 April.
         

I was quite surprised (1 May) to see how much the new bulbs had already formed for the following year.  The flowers hardly had time to dry up, and next years sprouts were already well formed.

       

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 9:50am
RickR wrote:

Sometimes we garden according to necessity, and not in compliance with plant growth schedules: I decided I needed to rid this part of the garden of infesting Quack grass where Tulipa tarda was clearly not wanting to go dormant yet.  
A pic taken of the tulips back on 24 April.
       
I was quite surprised (1 May) to see how much the new bulbs had already formed for the following year.  The flowers hardly had time to dry up, and next years sprouts were already well formed.

I've often seen it on the wild onion here (Allium vineale). They form new bulbs very early. I think they play safe and store energy for next year as quickly as they can in case the weather gets bad (drought for instance).

Tue, 05/08/2012 - 7:31pm

Just yesterday I cooked with our native wild Prairie onion, Allium stellatum (freshly dug), and my last Lilium davidii bulb held over in the fridge from last fall.  Too early for that allium to show new bulb growth.  It'll be a long time before it flowers in mid summer.  Trond, does Allium vineale  go dormant in summer?

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 2:07pm
RickR wrote:

Just yesterday I cooked with our native wild Prairie onion, Allium stellatum (freshly dug), and my last Lilium davidii bulb held over in the fridge from last fall.   Too early for that allium to show new bulb growth.  It'll be a long time before it flowers in mid summer.  Trond, does Allium vineale  go dormant in summer?

Rick, did you have the heart to eat it :o
And yes, A vineale goes dormant in summer. That is, the leaves wilt but the stem with a few flowers and lots of bulbils stays for all summer more or less green. When I was a child we played with it pretending it was real onions for dinner but we were never allowed to eat them. My grandma said they were poisonous.

More pictures of Scilla liliohyacinthus. I think I'll have some spare bulbs later if anybody is interested.

Wed, 05/09/2012 - 2:30pm
Hoy wrote:

Rick, did you have the heart to eat it :o

Of Course!  Many lilies, like L. davidii, are quite robust.  There is really no need to coddle them to get them to reproduce, and this species is very easy to clean if the bulbs are not too old.

Quote:

And yes, A vineale goes dormant in summer. That is, the leaves wilt but the stem with a few flowers and lots of bulbils stays for all summer more or less green. When I was a child we played with it pretending it was real onions for dinner but we were never allowed to eat them. My grandma said they were poisonous.

I wonder if that is true ???

I'd take seed of that Scilla, Trond, if you get any...

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