Iris 2012

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No spring Irisses here yet....I'll remedy that ;) In flower here now and during the last couple of weeks:

Iris 'Gordon'
Iris hyrcana
Iris 'Katherine Hodgkin'
Iris 'George'
Iris 'Rhapsody'
Iris 'Blue Ice'
Iris histrioides 'Angel's Tears'
Iris 'Pixie'
Iris 'Ruby'
and Iris 'Alida'

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Toole's picture

Sat, 07/14/2012 - 3:20am

Thanks for that Roland
Never thought of that !.

I don't think i've ever fed it ...Duh !!

I'll 'nuke'   ;) it with bone meal and see what happens .

Cheers Dave.

bulborum's picture

Sat, 07/14/2012 - 4:06am

Maybe also with an ordinary fertiliser like 12-10-18 + micro or spore elements
Bonemeal is fantastic
but a very slow fertiliser
also maybe a little chalk , Dolomite or whatever you call it where you live
if your garden is a little acid

Roland

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 12:28am

Dave,
"George" does well for us but I'm pretty sure we're a lot drier than you are!
We don't feed them and they still multiply but that could be because the soil is a rather rich but heavy "adobe" clay [to which we've added a lot of grit/gravel/sand]. The other thing we do is plant them in raised beds or mounds so that drainage is as good as possible.
cheers
fermi

bulborum's picture

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 10:39pm

Fermi

What type of soil do you have
I have to try this one in my garden
they don't like much my potting mixture
but probably my soil is to wet in the summer

Roland

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 12:42am

Hi Roland,
We are on heavy adobe type black clay! But this iris is planted in a raised bed which has had the soil "amended" by the addition of compost and a lot of coarse sand/grit. In parts of this bed it is almost 50% sand.
We usually have dry summers but the last 2 years they have been quite wet with over 2 inches of summer rain! I think the extreme drainage is the only thing which saved this iris! One small [partly-rotted] bulb was rescued from its pot [which hadn't been kept dry] and was re-planted in almost pure sand - I don't think it put up any growth last year but I just noticed some foliage emerging just this week, so I'm very happy that I didn't lose it altogether.

At present we have more retic iris in flower:
- the first we just bought on the weekend in bud - 'Purple Gem'

'Harmony' is the most popular or at least the most commonly grown retic iris here

This is the main clump of Iris 'George' - originally from a single bulb planted in 2002!

cheers
fermi

Toole's picture

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 2:21am

Fermi --i'm not sure if my 'unnamed 'Iris below is I.ret.purple gem ---whatever it is it's such a good 'doer' here  --quick to multiply and plenty of blooms.

Pic taken last Sat ,there were 5 flowers open as at today.

Cheers Dave.

Toole's picture

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 8:35pm

So pleased to see this in bloom today --Iris winogradowii --I used to have a good sized patch in the garden but for some reason they were going backwards --potted up a few ,the last   :-\ ,(I'm getting old ),  :) or maybe the year before so i haven't lost it altogether.

There is another bulb with a bud yet to open.

I was out with the paint brush just before to try and 'self it' but i wasn't sure if i had managed to transfer any pollen from the anthers to the stigmatic lip ,(i wiped both sides of the anthers ).Does anyone know if i should be able to see Iris pollen with the naked eye ? .Thanks.

Cheers Dave.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 9:13pm

That is such a beauty, Dave!  One that is really piquing my interest in the last couple years. 

I too have noticed the seemingly sparse pollen on several of the small iris species.  I have begun to wonder the same thing: if the pollen grains I do see are really clumps of grains, rather than single grains, and the single grains are just extremely tiny. ???  When I have tried to do what limited hand pollinating I've done with them, success is no better than natural pollination!  :-\

On the other hand, maybe I am just clumsy. :D

Toole's picture

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 9:49pm

Thanks a lot Rick --so you do see some pollen with the naked eye ?....i saw nothing on my brush but i'll keep on trying anyway.

Cheers Dave.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 5:45am
Toole wrote:

Thanks a lot Rick --so you do see some pollen with the naked eye ?

Cheers Dave.

It has been my limited experience that these crested species that I have, (I. cristata, lacustrus, minutoaurea) seem to have very little pollen that I can find, but it's not completely absent.  I can't say that I've really investigated scientifically, but when I have looked, half of the stamens I pluck have no usable pollen that I can see.  The ones that do, just 1-3 grains (or clumps of grains?).  I've never checked I. tectororum or I. gracilipes, and my I. koreana and odaesanenesis from seed haven't flowered yet. 

I don't have any of the bulbous types more than a year old from seed. 

Of the bearded types, I. suaveolens varieties have enough pollen (but not abundant), and I have never investigated my I. lutescens varieties or I. attica.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 6:59pm

Was very surprised today to notice that a potful of Iris odaesanensis seed sown just about 3 weeks ago showed germination; hard to count accurately from the photo, but with 18 seedlings so far.  This is the first time seed of spring woodland Iris has germinated so quickly; typically they wait until the following spring to germinate.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 7:40pm

Maybe sowing in high temperatures (relative to spring) is the trick? 

Did you soak them at all prior to sowing?

Mon, 08/06/2012 - 6:09pm
RickR wrote:

Maybe sowing in high temperatures (relative to spring) is the trick? 

Did you soak them at all prior to sowing?

No, I did not soak the seed.  I'm guessing that prolonged high temperatures, combined with deluge tropical downpours from violent thunderstoms the last couple of weeks, might be responsible for early germination; but just guessing.

By the way, I have found that planting Iris odaesanensis on flat ground produces much better plant growth (perhaps getting more moisture) than planting on slopes.  Those that I had planted on a slope had rhizomes that all retreated uphill to reach flat ground, those on the slopes eventually dying out.

Toole's picture

Tue, 08/07/2012 - 2:42am
RickR wrote:

It has been my limited experience that these crested species that I have, (I. cristata, lacustrus, minutoaurea) seem to have very little pollen that I can find, but it's not completely absent.  I can't say that I've really investigated scientifically, but when I have looked, half of the stamens I pluck have no usable pollen that I can see.  The ones that do, just 1-3 grains (or clumps of grains?).  I've never checked I. tectororum or I. gracilipes, and my I. koreana and odaesanenesis from seed haven't flowered yet.  

I don't have any of the bulbous types more than a year old from seed.  

Of the bearded types, I. suaveolens varieties have enough pollen (but not abundant), and I have never investigated my I. lutescens varieties or I. attica.

Thanks again Rick.

Mark
I had to go and have a look at your photo on the PBS of Iris odaesanensis --what a beauty  :-*

Cheers Dave.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 8:03pm
Toole wrote:

Fermi --i'm not sure if my 'unnamed 'Iris below is I.ret.purple gem ---whatever it is it's such a good 'doer' here  --quick to multiply and plenty of blooms.
Cheers Dave.

Hi Dave,
I think there is some confusion between 'Purple Gem' and 'Pauline'!

Here's another pic of 'Harmony' taken a week after the one I posted on August 01
- hard to say if it's spread through the Teucrium subspinosum or vice versa!
cheers
fermi

Lori S.'s picture

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:05pm

Wow, echoes (or previews?) of spring!  Beautiful, Fermi!

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 12:14am

I definitely have to try more of these spring flowering irises!

deesen's picture

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 1:44am

You certainly grow 'em well Fermi. Your hot, dry Summers seem to be the key.

Toole's picture

Thu, 12/13/2012 - 12:23am

A couple of Chinese sps out at the moment.

Iris bulleyana is a good 'doer' to about 60cm in height and increases strongly each season.

At the other end of the scale is Iris barbatula --individual blooms are short lived however given some moisture it has repeated.

Cheers Dave.

bulborum's picture

Sat, 01/12/2013 - 8:38am

Here Iris planifolia Pale blue form starts flowering
found by my wife while I was searching for a white form (and didn't find that day)

Roland

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