Crocus 2012

Submitted by Tony Willis on Sun, 01/15/2012 - 08:51

Some pictures of

Crocus pelistericus
Crocus scardicus

and the hybrid between them

Crocus gothenburgensis

with in this case C. scardicus as the seed parent. Apart from being paler it is very similar to C. scardicus and the more lurid colours only come out in the F2 generation which I have not produced yet.

Finally all three together with the hybrid in the middle

Comments


Submitted by Mark McD on Sun, 01/15/2012 - 09:16

Tony, a most cheerful view on this frigid morning (0 F, -18 C), they're all beauties.  Someday I want to have a small greenhouse, just to have some winter blooming treats like the early crocus.  Is your Crocus x gothenburgensis the 'Tricolor' form?  Wonderful presentation to see papa, momma, and baby bear croci :D


Submitted by Tony Willis on Sun, 01/15/2012 - 09:44

McDonough wrote:

Tony, a most cheerful view on this frigid morning (0 F, -18 C), they're all beauties.  Someday I want to have a small greenhouse, just to have some winter blooming treats like the early crocus.  Is your Crocus x gothenburgensis the 'Tricolor' form?  Wonderful presentation to see papa, momma, and baby bear croci :D

Mark

a couple of points here,these are late spring flowerers and should have been out March/April but our strange winter,we have just had our first frost at -1c three days ago has confused them. Last week it was +11c

I think these would be okay outside with snowcover and a cool moist summer.Heat and drought are their big problems.

Although it is the same parentage as 'Tricolor' this is my own raising. I have several dozens of these and the cross with C. pelistericus as the seed parent.


Submitted by Tony Willis on Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:17

Some more in flower at the moment
Crocus sieberi from Crete
Crocus biflorus ssp
Crocus biflorus ssp crewii
Crocus biflorus ssp issauricus
Crocus biflorus pulchricolor white


Submitted by Tony Willis on Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:20

A few more

Crocus biflorus pulchricolor x C. chrysanthus natural hybrid
Crocus chrysanthus
Crocus cyprius
Crocus etruscus
Crocus sieberi Mt Parnassus
Crocus vernus


Submitted by Mark McD on Sun, 01/15/2012 - 18:37

Such a selection that it's impossible to decide which one is most beautiful; although my top 3 pick (it could change in a moment's notice) is sieberi from Mt. Parnassus, cyprius, and biflorus ssp. crewii.  Sometimes when I see photos of Crocus flowering under glass, they look over-reflexed with segments splaying backwards; a tad "flabby", but your plants look pristinely fresh with tight chalice-shaped blooms; do you keep your greenhouse as cool as possible?


Submitted by RickR on Sun, 01/15/2012 - 19:09

An excellent array, Tony, and a perfect start to a new crocus thread!

Wouldn't it be interesting if your reverse cross of C. scardicus and C. pelistericus showed the opposite coloring: predominantly lavender petals with yellow throats?


Submitted by Tony Willis on Mon, 01/16/2012 - 05:57

Mark my problem is getting them to actually open.I have it mild and no sun which causes them to elongate and fall over without opening. I often bring them into the house to open them and then it is critical to time it right so they do not open flat before you are ready with the camera. You will see that i was a little too long with the C. biflorus issauricus.

Rick,if only it worked on the reverse cross but here it is below from last year and as you will see yellow again. I have some wonderful pictures of the F2 strain raised at Gothenburg and these have a wonderful range of shades coming through. I cannot put them up as I do not have copyright.


Submitted by Hoy on Mon, 01/16/2012 - 12:01

Beautiful, Tony!
Now I really am looking forward to the spring. Although a couple Crocus vernus/tomasinianus have shown their colour it is still a month or two till the blooming starts.


Submitted by Saori on Mon, 01/16/2012 - 22:47

Wow, Tony thanks for showing us wonderful flowers!

They are all beautiful and it makes me feel like spring is coming soon! :)

I don't know a lot about Crocus species, so when I can see posted pictures showing both the parents and the offspring, it's fascinating for me to see how the plants come out. I like them all, but this one really caught my attention: Crocus biflorus pulchricolor x C. chrysanthus natural hybrid.


Submitted by WimB on Wed, 02/01/2012 - 09:17

Tony,

a wonderful Crocus show :o  :o, love that C. gothenburgensis  :). I sowed both his "parents "this year, I'll keep my fingers crossed to have flowers on them in 4 years, then I can make this cross in my own garden  :rolleyes:

Here some crocusses which have been flowering here during the last month:

Crocus atticus 'M. Hoog's Memory'
Crocus korolkowii
Crocus antalyensis 'Sky Blue'
Crocus chrysanthus 'Uschak Orange'
Crocus versicolor


Submitted by Hoy on Wed, 02/01/2012 - 13:30

Not bad those either, Wim!

All my crocuses are in the "freezer" now! -8C last night.


Submitted by Tony Willis on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 04:06

Some more of mine in flower. We had a few cold (-2c) sunny days and the temperature in the greenhouse was over 10c. No snow.

Crocus bilforus pulchricolor/chrysanthus natural hybrid
Crocus chrysanthus
Crocus cvijicii
Crocus reticulatus
Crocus sieberi
Crocus veluchensis


Submitted by Mark McD on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 10:29

Tony and Wim, really nice crocus, and once again, my eye is instantly drawn to C. sieberi (Parnassus form), such a full and elegant goblet shape.  Wim, Crocus versicolor is a delicate beauty, another species I'm not famliar with.  One day I'll have to buy Janus Ruksans book, another item on my long list of things to afford-and-buy.

Unusually mild winter here so far, once again above freezing today, although predicted to get much colder again.  Walking around the south side of my house and yard yesterday, the cataphylls on a number of crocus are showing and swelling.


Submitted by WimB on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 02:27

Tony,

love the "natural hybrid"...wonderful colour. And C. cvijicii is one of my personal favorites!

McDonough wrote:

One day I'll have to buy Janus Ruksans book, another item on my long list of things to afford-and-buy.

You really should, it's a great book!

McDonough wrote:

Unusually mild winter here so far, once again above freezing today, although predicted to get much colder again.  Walking around the south side of my house and yard yesterday, the cataphylls on a number of crocus are showing and swelling.

Over here they predict thawing for tomorrow, I'm looking forward to it!


Submitted by cohan on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 15:39

So many beauties! The yellows and whites are especially lovely to me.. seems like spring flowers are impossibly far away-- though I guess it could be under 3 months...lol


Submitted by WimB on Mon, 02/27/2012 - 04:03

In bud here now:

Crocus 'Hubert Edelsten'
and Crocus 'Yalta'


Submitted by Hoy on Mon, 02/27/2012 - 13:03

Nice ones, Wim! Do you let your Crocuses "go wild" or do you have a strict regime on them so they don't cross?


Submitted by WimB on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:18

Hoy wrote:

Nice ones, Wim! Do you let your Crocuses "go wild" or do you have a strict regime on them so they don't cross?

Thanks Trond. I let them go wild but I collect most of the seeds, which I sow myself or send to the seedexes as Crocus ex "species" or "cultivar". Most of the time they come true to type from open pollination!


Submitted by WimB on Mon, 03/05/2012 - 00:21

Some Crocusses flowering here:

Crocus chrysanthus 'Milea' (2x)
Crocus 'Shock Wave' (2x)
Crocus x reticulatus 'Ego' (2x)
Crocus x reticulatus 'Janis Ruksans' (2x)
Crocus 'Hubert Edelsten'
Crocus 'Yalta'


Submitted by RickR on Mon, 03/05/2012 - 19:10

The kind of feathering on your Hubert Edelsten, Wim, is my most favorite variation in crocus.  I am a sucker for lavender hues, too.  They are all so fresh and inviting!


Submitted by WimB on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 10:47

RickR wrote:

The kind of feathering on your Hubert Edelsten, Wim, is my most favorite variation in crocus.  I am a sucker for lavender hues, too.  They are all so fresh and inviting!

Crocus is the real herald of Spring for me...I simply love them all...you may call me a "Croconut".

Today in the garden, a row of Crocus 'Yalta' in bud,


Submitted by Hoy on Tue, 03/06/2012 - 13:07

A fine collection, Wim!
I had 1 1/2 day with bright sun and open flowers on my Crocuses, now I'm back to dull weather again. Can't expect any sunshine till next week :(


Submitted by Mark McD on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 13:19

Some good crocus there Wim, I believe I'm a budding croconut too.  I particularly like C. x reticulatus 'Ego', reminscent of C. angustifolius (which are tightly in bud here) with the beautiful brown feathering on the outside.  With a summer-like day two days ago, bulbs are "leaping" out of the ground; some crocus surprisingly had flowers open in the afternoon that warm day, when no buds were visible in the morning!  Today it is just above freezing, too cold for any buds to open.  Supposed to be sunny and 55 F (13C) tomorrow, so expecting to see blooms on biflorus isauricus, angustifolius, numerous chrysanthus open-pollinated hybrids, gargaricus, and maybe a couple others.


Submitted by WimB on Sun, 03/11/2012 - 00:25

Hoy wrote:

A fine collection, Wim!

Thanks, Trond!

McDonough wrote:

Some good crocus there Wim, I believe I'm a budding croconut too. 

It's contagious, isn't it?

McDonough wrote:

I particularly like C. x reticulatus 'Ego', reminscent of C. angustifolius (which are tightly in bud here) with the beautiful brown feathering on the outside. 

Love it too, it's quite distinct.

McDonough wrote:

Supposed to be sunny and 55 F (13C) tomorrow, so expecting to see blooms on biflorus isauricus, angustifolius, numerous chrysanthus open-pollinated hybrids, gargaricus, and maybe a couple others.

Looking forward to seeing some pics of them, Mark. Especially the open-pollinated C. chrysanthus hybrids!


Submitted by WimB on Sun, 03/11/2012 - 04:58

Some Crocuses which are flowering here now:

Crocus chrysanthus 'Prins Claus'
Crocus vernus ssp. vernus var heuffelianus 'Dark Eyes'
Crocus vernus ssp. vernus var heuffelianus 'Shock Wave'

and Crocus 'Yalta'


Submitted by Mark McD on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 20:21

Wim, I wish the heuffelianus types were more available here, they're striking; as is the 'Yalta' hybrid.  Crocus chrysanthus 'Prins Claus' is one of my favorites, and incredibly fragrant; after a decade or so in my garden I lost most, although a few seedlings persist; must plant it again.


Submitted by Mark McD on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 21:09

An extra mild spell including a record-breaking warm day, contribute to an early Crocus season, where blooms are leaping out of the ground.  Yesterday I was able to get home early, an unusually warm sunny day, but by the time I got home clouds arrived, so I hustled outside with my phone camera in hand to attempt getting some crocus photos with the flowers open.  The quality of photos is not great with my phone camera, but it's all I have unless I buy a new camera.

Crocus angustifolius is one of the best long-lived species to naturalize in the garden, and one of the showiest deep yellow species with striking bold brown striping on the outside. The species regularly produces lots of seed, and when I sow the seed "in situ" directly in the garden, it germinates freely and in about 3 years makes dense wonderfully floriferous patches.

left:       C. angustifolius, 3-year old seedling patch, just starting to flower; many more buds coming.
center:   C. angustifolius, overheard view.  
right:     C. angustifolius, with C. etruscus 'Rosalind' in the background.

Two views of C. etruscus 'Rosalind' is one of my absolute favorites.  On the left, in the morning, the flowers are just emerging.  In the 2nd photo, the flowers opened more.

Crocus gargaricus is utterly unique, color-wise and the way it flowers... the flowers literally emerge as leafless orange lipsticks popping right out of the ground.  I started with 3 bulbs about 10 years ago, now it is about 50 bulbs growing happily outside.  In the first photo, the flowers are just emerging, in the second photo the flowers are opened, the incurved goblet shaped flowers are so hot orange and shiny that it is hard to get a good photo of them.


Submitted by Mark McD on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 06:49

I have one circular bed (actually a "shrub ring") with Hibiscus syriacus 'Aprhrodite' underplanted with Crocus chrysanthus cultivars Goldilocks, Advance, and Blue Pearl), dwarf Iris, frits, and other miscellaneous bulbs.  I find that C. chrysanthus produces masses of seed, which I help along by scratching the seed into the soil when ripe in early summer; many interesting hybrids appeared.

In the famous ice storm of December 2008, with disastrous damage to trees and shrubs, the Hibiscus toppled over under the weight of thick ice, the huge root ball lifted completely out of the ground, and there it had to stay until spring thaw.  I lost a number of bulbs that winter because for months they were totally exposed to freezing, dessication, and varmints. With the spring thaw, it was a major undertaking but I was able to upright the shrub and get the root ball replanted; most of the established clumps of Crocus chrysanthus perished.  But a few bulbs and innumerable seedlings survived, as did miraculously, the Hibiscus.  Since spring 2009, I've been sowing lots of C. chrysanthus seed "in situ", dabbing pollen with a paintbrush when I have time to do so, the result being a pleasing jumble of mixed colors and forms.  I'm surprised by the variety, including some good pure white colors, interesting because there were no white Crocus in the area.

I particularly like the many beige to brown-toned colors.

a few more:


Submitted by WimB on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 12:52

:o :o Wonderful Crocusses, Mark. Love those coppery-apricot hybrids!!


Submitted by Lori S. on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 20:15

Beautiful, Wim and Mark!  This year is shaping up for an earlier spring than the last couple so maybe we'll have some crocus in bloom here by April.
I love the coppery-coloured ones too.  What are the very blue ones, Mark?  I have lots of purple tones but none that are distinctly blue like that.


Submitted by cohan on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 22:37

More wonders :) Wim- love the yellows with dark outside, and Mark, I agree with others, those browny colours are very nice!


Submitted by Mark McD on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 12:58

Lori wrote:

I love the coppery-coloured ones too.  What are the very blue ones, Mark?  I have lots of purple tones but none that are distinctly blue like that.

I did have C. chrysanthus 'Blue Pearl' in this particular bed, so the blue color is no doubt coming from that parent.  The color looks a tad more blue in the photographs, in reality they are a purplish-blue.  I do have one fine royal blue one that is heavily striped, my photo came out lousy, so I didn't show it, and it's overcast today, crocus no open ;-)  Several other crocus species are opening (well, in tight bud while waiting for some sun), such as the best of the dwarf white species in my opinion, C. malyi. 

Walking around the garden today, I'm noticing just how many Crocus chrysanthus seedlings have escaped the bounds of the "shrub ring" and are now popping up all over the place in the lawn, then found a couple small seedling C. chrysanthus flowering in my woodland garden about 30 meters away, not sure how they got there, probably from chipmunks who bury collected seed in small caches.


Submitted by Hoy on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 16:09

First sun in a couple weeks!
The Crocus vernus and other opened their flowers after a long waiting time.


Submitted by Mark McD on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 16:11

Very nice and floriferous, looks like a welcome sunny slope for a picnic and flower gazing.


Submitted by Mark McD on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:53

A glorious summer-like sunny day today, 72 F (22 C), and the bulbs are jumping out of the ground and Crocus spread wide open to great the sun; so a few more photos.

Left:  C. angustifolius (yellow), C. kosaninii (tight clump of blue purple in the center), C. biflorus var. isauricus (light blue, and going over).
Center:  closer view of the same crocus.
Right:  Close view of C. kosaninii; most of the buds weren't even showing the previous day!

Left:  more Crocus chrysanthus hybrids, wide open.
Right: a nice buff yellow color form of C. chrysanthus

Left:  Crocus malyi
Center: view showing C. malyi (foreground), angustifolius (left center), etruscus 'Rosalind' (center), gargaricus (top)
Right:  C. etruscus 'Rosalind', with C. angustifolius in lower right.

C. sieberi 'Tricolor'


Submitted by WimB on Sun, 03/18/2012 - 13:10

Mark, I didn't know you were a croconut too!  ;)

Still love your hybrids the most!!


Submitted by Hoy on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:50

Mark, you have some nice Crocuses yourself! Your climate is better than mine for many different Crocus species. They dislice the humid climate here.


Submitted by Tim Ingram on Tue, 03/20/2012 - 15:05

Trond - if you can give them good light and really good drainage you might find they would succeed. Our biggest problem has always been rabbits, but now we have the garden well fenced and a patrolling Jack Russell dog, so I have high hopes of developing plantings like Mark's. They are truly the most beautiful and simple of bulbs.


Submitted by Toole on Wed, 07/11/2012 - 02:56

Mine don't get the best of light Tim --here you can see the buds of Crocus pestalozzae raised from seed showing a bit of elongation.Hopefully I will get a shot or two of them open tomorrow as well as the white form with black spots.

Quite a number of other sps are showing buds --C.gargaricus ,C mayli, ,C. danfordiae ,C adanensis and C etrucus --the last 3 from seed so that's always exciting ,....... 

Cheers Dave.


Submitted by Toole on Thu, 07/12/2012 - 03:05

Enough sunshine this afternoon to open C.pestalozzae .

Followed by a couple of shots of C.adanensis --first flowering of seed ,ex Germany, sown June 2007.

Cheers Dave.


Submitted by Hoy on Thu, 07/12/2012 - 23:47

Dave, some special species you have there!


Submitted by Toole on Sat, 07/14/2012 - 03:20

Thanks Trond

However i have a way to go to reach the colour of your Crocus bed shown earlier.

Here's a sps not quite out yet ,but oh so attractive even at this stage  :-*.......
Crocus herbertii

Cheers Dave


Submitted by Toole on Fri, 07/20/2012 - 03:40

Crocus abantensis ----Wasn't too sure whether i'd see any blooms this year after giving away a good sized bulb last year -- luckily the two left in the pot are both flowering.

Cheers Dave.


Submitted by Toole on Mon, 07/23/2012 - 02:39

Yummy  :-* Crocus malyi today.

Cheers Dave


Submitted by Hoy on Mon, 07/23/2012 - 03:16

Dave, your Crocuses give me a feeling of spring - as did the trip to Finse where the snow still lingers  ;D


Submitted by Fermi on Thu, 07/26/2012 - 21:56

First flower from seed of Crocus rujanensis received from the NZAGS Seedex in 2008
cheers
fermi


Submitted by Toole on Wed, 08/01/2012 - 02:49

Fermi wrote:

First flower from seed of Crocus rujanensis received from the NZAGS Seedex in 2008
cheers
fermi

Very nice Fermi --i missed that offering somehow  ;) ;D

Incorrectly raised from seed as C.kosaninii , i'm sure this is C.imperati --a largish bloom with wonderful feathering.

Cheers Dave.


Submitted by Toole on Sun, 08/26/2012 - 03:28

Not sure of the sps --they may well be seedlings that have appeared in a mossy trough.
In any case i thought the scene taken today ,where one of the stems has pierced the fallen leaf, was worth sharing.

Cheers Dave.


Submitted by Hoy on Tue, 08/28/2012 - 13:42

Your crocuses reminds me of the autumn-blooming ones, but no sign of them here yet. Nice to see yours though ;)


Submitted by Toole on Fri, 08/31/2012 - 03:23

Thanks Hoy.

Crocus minimus today.

Cheers dave.


Submitted by cohan on Tue, 09/04/2012 - 11:31

Nice stuff, Dave and Fermi;
the plant piercing the leaf is interesting- I see that kind of thing in the woods fairly often, and always wonder how it happens that the shoot pierces rather than just pushing the leaf aside!


Submitted by Toole on Wed, 09/12/2012 - 02:18

cohan wrote:

Nice stuff, Dave and Fermi;
the plant piercing the leaf is interesting- I see that kind of thing in the woods fairly often, and always wonder how it happens that the shoot pierces rather than just pushing the leaf aside!

Yes my thoughts as well Cohan --it's not as if the leaf was a heavy sodden weight...

Here's a first flowering from NARGS seed sown Feb 09 ---Crocus sieberi ssp atticus --a lovely yellow throat .

Cheers dave.