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This is one of the last Nerines in flower
Nerine undulata syn. N. crispa
thanks to the cold weather I think

Roland

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bulborum's picture

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 3:36am

Cyrtanthus breviflorus start flowering here

Roland

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 6:18am

You are welcome, Amy (got a copy of a nice magazine recently  ;) )
I'm looking forward to seeing yours! I've been fascinated by Clivias ever since my grandma lived. She had an enormous 100 year old plant in a huge pot!
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Here is my Clivia seedling in full bloom for the very first time!! The seed came from a large plant that Matt Mattus gave to me when I worked as propagation & greenhouse manager for a large nursery & garden center a few years back. I collected the seeds and every one germinated. I gave lots of plants away and kept 4. This is the only one so far to flower, that I know of. Matt said it was an 'interspecific cross', but as you can see it is very much like the common C. miniata. But still very special to me!  ;D

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 1:24pm
AmyO wrote:

Here is my Clivia seedling in full bloom for the very first time!! The seed came from a large plant that Matt Mattus gave to me when I worked as propagation & greenhouse manager for a large nursery & garden center a few years back. I collected the seeds and every one germinated. I gave lots of plants away and kept 4. This is the only one so far to flower, that I know of. Matt said it was an 'interspecific cross', but as you can see it is very much like the common C. miniata. But still very special to me!  ;D

Amy, Congratulation with the first flowers on your Clivia. Very nice and of course it is special! If it is an interspecific hybrid you should self it - then you can get some interesting results.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 5:14pm
Hoy wrote:

AmyO wrote:

Here is my Clivia seedling in full bloom for the very first time!! The seed came from a large plant that Matt Mattus gave to me when I worked as propagation & greenhouse manager for a large nursery & garden center a few years back. I collected the seeds and every one germinated. I gave lots of plants away and kept 4. This is the only one so far to flower, that I know of. Matt said it was an 'interspecific cross', but as you can see it is very much like the common C. miniata. But still very special to me!  ;D

Amy, Congratulation with the first flowers on your Clivia. Very nice and of course it is special! If it is an interspecific hybrid you should self it - then you can get some interesting results.

Trond...does 'selfing' simply mean to cross-pollinate the flowers back and forth with each other? I've never been clear on that. :P

Tue, 03/13/2012 - 12:37am

Yes. Use pollen from the same plant. It doesn't matter whether you use the same or another flower. If your plant is an intergeneric hybrid (F1) then miniata seems to be dominant. In that case all member of the F1 generatin would be similar and probably show some heterosis-effect (extra vigour). But if you manage to get seeds by selfing you should get recombination on traits in the F2 generation. Then you have to grow and select new types  ;)

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 1:48am
Lis wrote:

Most of the Clivias in cultivation today are inter-specific crosses, that is crosses of various strains of Clivia miniata.

Here are two pictures of my yellow Clivs. The seeds came from South Africa through the Clivia Store. They came loose in a plain envelope. I was surprised that they came through the mail like that, but it worked. All but one seed grew and of the ones that have flowered so far, two have been lovely yellows. The one that has just bloomed is also strongly fragrant. Another seedling seems to be staying miniature in size.

The book 'Clivias' by Harold Koopowitz is the last word on clivs and well worth getting.

Now, anybody want about 47 miscellaneous orange Clivias????

I do fine with one ;)

cohan's picture

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 5:18pm

The yellows are nice :) I know plants have sold for plenty, if not as much as snowdrops! How long did they take from flowers?
My mom has a mass of orange ones from a plant I got her years ago, but they are too big for my house- I can fit many small plants in that space!

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 7:05pm
Lis wrote:

Mine took three years from seed to bloom, but the plants are still small. They'll be full size in another year or two.

I saw some seeds for 'pastel mix' Clivias advertised just now for $65 per seed. And I'm tempted! I must be nuts......

Yes Lis you are nuts!! I bought 6 seeds for a variegated form of Clivia for just $8.00 on ebay!! Give that a try....if you really, really need them!  ;)

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 1:46pm

$65 a seed! For that amount of money I can go to London and back by air! And I do not have to pay extra for visiting the pub though ;) Right now a trip to London is $15! (+ some  taxes of course with Ryanair)

cohan's picture

Fri, 03/16/2012 - 9:30pm

For $15-- hmm, maybe I could drive to Edmonton or Calgary, 2.5 hours away (one way).... which is where I would find an international airport... any flight would be a lot more on top of that! Not to mention airport parking, which I'm sure is more than $15....And of course a return drive...

cohan's picture

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 12:36am

I'd say getting one variegated plant from 6 seeds is pretty good! I'd have thought the odds would be worse... they must have really bred that variegation in!

Toole's picture

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:15pm

Haemanthus coccineus

Initially two flowers without the leaves showing ,(I've cut off one of the faded blooms), --now another ,(immature), one with greenery coming away --you can just catch a glimpse of the beautiful markings on its stem.

Cheers Dave.

bulborum's picture

Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:38pm

Very nice pot Dave
congratulations

Roland

cohan's picture

Sat, 03/24/2012 - 11:33am

I just showed this plant in Image of the Day, Ledebouria galpinii, from seed Jan 2010, first flowering- just after emerging from a short winter rest..
very small plant, should have pretty pink flowers...

cohan's picture

Sat, 03/24/2012 - 10:47pm

Wow, bright! I'm more familiar with violet spp :)

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:44am

Dave, a brilliant colour of that coccineus!

Michael, do you grow it as an Easter ornamental?

Cohan, are you sure the name is right? When googling Ledebouria galpinii I get something very different?

Fri, 03/30/2012 - 7:05pm

I have Gladiolus cunonis started from seed last year.  It's so different, and one of my favorites, after G. orchidiflorus, of course.

That Moraea aristata with its peacock feather eyes is quite stunner, Michael. Such vivid color!  :o

And the Watsonia laccata is such a wonderful shade of orange, too.

Howey's picture

Sat, 03/31/2012 - 4:08am

Beautiful pictures, Michael.  Am wondering about how to get my Moraea bicolor to flower.  After 20 years of a pot/garden indoor/outdoor routine, it is a nice clump of leaves but never a flower.  Am wondering about fertilizer.  Would sure love to see some flowers like the ones I saw at the entrance to Kirstenbosch Gardens in Capetown.  Perhaps you could give me an idea about this.  Fran

Frances Howey
London, Ontario, Canada
Zone 5b 

Michael J Campbell's picture

Sat, 03/31/2012 - 4:57am

Francis, my Moraea bulbs all get the same treatment. They are all grown in plastic pots in the greenhouse in a compost made up as follows. 50% soil,20% coarse grit, 20% perlite, and 10 coarse sand. The pot is filled to about three quarters with this mix and then a layer or coarse sand  about 2cm. the bulbs are places on the sand and covered with the same sand and then topped with Grit. They are kept in the greenhouse with the heater set at 2C to keep the frost out. They are watered on the 1st  of September and kept just damp until they have made  good growth usually around Christmas or early January. Then I feed them every two weeks with tomato feed until flower buds appear. they like plenty of water when in full growth and as they are in pure sand it is difficult to over do it.
Remember I live in the west of Ireland in a mild climate and we only occasionally get heavy frosts, although 2010 and 2011 were extreme with -17c
for weeks.
I have had them bloom out in the garden for years until the heavy frosts came. :)

Hope this helps.
 

Tim Ingram's picture

Sat, 03/31/2012 - 10:01am

Michael - Moraea aristata is stunning. I wonder how much winter cold some of these would take? I have a yellow Moraea (not sure of the species) which has been outside now for 4 or 5 years (with a low of -14°C this winter - but usually only to -8°C or so) and Watsonia aletroides has survived and flowered quite well. Maybe if given an insulated cloche through the worst weather...?

bulborum's picture

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 3:08pm

Michael

Very nice Freesia alba picture
The seeds you send from the Freesia's (Anomatheca) start germinating
looks very promising

Roland

cohan's picture

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 4:47pm

Michael- what a show!

Trond, yes, my plant(s) is (are) Ledebouria galpinii :) just remember mine a)only just emerged from winter rest so leaves are not fully developed in the pics, and buds aren't open b)my plants live indoors all year, so with lower light, the leaves will be less flat, and less purple, but they do have the attractive texture, and the flowers opened pink :)

 

Here is Bulbine favosa small form; this is an easy and frequent flowerer :) Probably would be much more erect in full sun, but I'm just happy it flowers.... I may try to raise at least one of them this summer to show the caudex..

Ongoing flowering on my plants from Penrock seed as Ornithogalum unifoliatum; they are one leafed, but not succulent as that species should be? Probably one of the species moved to Albuca..

Some fresh pics of the Ledebouria galpinii

     

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 11:40pm
cohan wrote:

Michael- what a show!

Trond, yes, my plant(s) is (are) Ledebouria galpinii :) just remember mine a)only just emerged from winter rest so leaves are not fully developed in the pics, and buds aren't open b)my plants live indoors all year, so with lower light, the leaves will be less flat, and less purple, but they do have the attractive texture, and the flowers opened pink :)

Here is Bulbine favosa small form; this is an easy and frequent flowerer :) Probably would be much more erect in full sun, but I'm just happy it flowers.... I may try to raise at least one of them this summer to show the caudex..

Ongoing flowering on my plants from Penrock seed as Ornithogalum unifoliatum; they are one leafed, but not succulent as that species should be? Probably one of the species moved to Albuca..

Some fresh pics of the Ledebouria galpinii

OK, I wouldn't have recognised it without the flowers ;)
You do grow a lot of plants inside the house! How many pots do you have?

I once had a pot of L socialis inddors and the leaves was pretty nice, the flowers were not! However last autumn I was too late to bring it inside. It didn't take the freezing temps and died. . . . .

cohan's picture

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 12:27am

I have two types of L socialis, one is also flowering now- not fancy, but still nice- and this is a form with nice leaves... I have a couple other Ledebourias too, though some of the most amazing ones are very hard to get- especially in Canada!
Here's a not very exciting photo from today of Ledebouria socialis (hard to see in this pic, but the leaf is a bit more shapely than my other form, nicer markings, and the leaf back gets darker in stronger light... Also Ledebouria 'Leatherleaf'

 
I have no idea how many plants I have inside-- I suppose around a couple hundred maybe.... No way I could deal with just outdoor gardening here when the season is so short...

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 12:52am
bulborum wrote:

I can send you new ones Trond

R

Roland, thank you very much! I'll PM you.

cohan wrote:

I have no idea how many plants I have inside-- I suppose around a couple hundred maybe.... No way I could deal with just outdoor gardening here when the season is so short...

Well, I have about 100 I think - and that's enough for me. Takes time to check them all during the winter although some are completely dry during the winter. But you have some interesting ones, Cohan ;)

cohan's picture

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 4:41pm

Some of mine are winter dry as well, though I am trying to get more winter growers, that's the whole point of having plants inside!! My best light is in spring and fall, so I have started to water my summer growers quite early, and late into fall, with a shorter winter rest, and half dry in summer; I follow a similar schedule for things like Haworthia, which are mostly winter growers in habitat, but I don't water during the darkest time of winter, and again in mid-summer (though its not hot here) I don't water again..

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 11:20pm
cohan wrote:

Some of mine are winter dry as well, though I am trying to get more winter growers, that's the whole point of having plants inside!! My best light is in spring and fall, so I have started to water my summer growers quite early, and late into fall, with a shorter winter rest, and half dry in summer; I follow a similar schedule for things like Haworthia, which are mostly winter growers in habitat, but I don't water during the darkest time of winter, and again in mid-summer (though its not hot here) I don't water again..

Have you sorted your plants in classes according to watering regimes or do they all get the same treatment?
Or maybe you remember the exact programme for each and every plant you have ;)

cohan's picture

Sat, 04/07/2012 - 9:41pm

They are more or less grouped, but I also have to fit pots where I can fit them, and where they can get appropriate light.. So I try to put pots with similar schedules together in trays, and give more or less water by making a looser soil for those that want to be drier -- this is espeically true for cacti; some plants though, just get stuck in where there is space..
Once they are adults and on schedule (seedlings tend to get water all year for a couple of years) I do know what schedule each plant needs..
That doesn't mean I always water them when I should....lol

cohan's picture

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 12:32am

Sometimes it seems the outdoor garden is just a small blip on the radar..... in fact, maybe I only imagined that there is a growing season outdoors here....

Howey's picture

Mon, 04/09/2012 - 2:03pm

Thanks for the info about the Moraeas, Michael.  I'll give it a try.  I heard that a high potash content in the fertilizer was a desirable thing with these South African bulbs?  Fran

Frances Howey
London, Ontario, Canada
Zone 5b

Wed, 04/11/2012 - 9:46am

I bought a bulb of this plant when I visited South Africa in 2003. Now I have a potfull of them and they flower from a long time every spring with nicely scented flowers.

cohan's picture

Wed, 04/11/2012 - 11:00am

The Tulbaghias all seem to look pretty :) This is a summer grower? It goes out for the summer?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 12:47am

I grow it in a pot and put the pot outside in spring/summer. It is completely dry during winter (stored in a cool but frost free room) and when I see new buds in early spring I bring it into a slightly warmer room and give it a little water. When the laves get bigger I give more water if necessary (depending on rain if it is outside). When the flowers are done in summer I put the pot behind something else and let the leaves die down during late summer/fall. It is an easy plant and seems to like that the bulbs are crowded.

cohan's picture

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 11:35am

Trond, I think I even saw some common Tulbaghia for sale at Walmart as dry bagged bulbs for summer planting- they've had a Nerine too.. I was going to say I wasn't sure if my summer was warm enough, but I guess (apart from risk of frost) my summer can't be much cooler than yours  ;D And people do grow the big Gladiolus in the garden in summer...

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 11:46am
Michael wrote:

Ferraria crispa

Michael, you are sure it is a flower and not a artistically decorated chocolate cake?
This was a special one :o

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 12:01pm
cohan wrote:

Trond, I think I even saw some common Tulbaghia for sale at Walmart as dry bagged bulbs for summer planting- they've had a Nerine too.. I was going to say I wasn't sure if my summer was warm enough, but I guess (apart from risk of frost) my summer can't be much cooler than yours  ;D And people do grow the big Gladiolus in the garden in summer...

Cohan, your summer is definitely as warm as mine. I would have problem growing the big gladioli as it often is too cool in summer.

I grow another Tulbaghia in a pot too. It is as easy as simmlerii but much smaller in stature. It flowers later in the summer and all summer till fall.
I once had Nerine bowdenii in the garden all year for several years and it flowered regularly every fall, but I moved it - shouldn't have done for it died.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 6:37pm
Hoy wrote:

Michael, you are sure it is a flower and not a artistically decorated chocolate cake?
This was a special one :o

This is just what came to my mind, too: a chocolate dessert.  The colors are so distinct and pure!

Nature is so marvelous.  :o
And what an excellent showcase, Michael!

cohan's picture

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 11:56pm

I forgot to mention that Ferraria- they are quite amazing, Michael :)

Fri, 04/20/2012 - 5:16am

It is interesting that the subspecies violaceae is yellow  ???.  Are the names mixed up on the photos?

Also intriguing on the yellow flower is the looping appendages.  Looking at the purple one, they look to be the stigma?

Are these spraxis small, like sisyrhinciumSisyrinchium?

bulborum's picture

Fri, 04/20/2012 - 11:07pm

You are probably right Rick

the seed are from wild collected source
it was the only flowering one this year in the pot
and I didn't control the name on the label
so no idea what for sp. it is but it isn't violaceae
I will have a look later

RickR wrote:

Are these sparaxis small, like Sisyrincium?

What do you mean by this
the plant or flowers

Today is Gladiolus quadrangulus in flower

Roland

Sat, 04/21/2012 - 4:54am

The sisyrhiniumSisyrinchium  we grow here have small flowers, about 10-12cm.  Are those Sparaxis grandiflora that small?

The petals are so symmetrical on your Gladiolus quandrangulus, except for the stamens and pistil, it looks like a lily!

bulborum's picture

Sat, 04/21/2012 - 5:04am
RickR wrote:

The sisyrhinium Sisyrinchium we grow here have small flowers,
about 10-12cm.mm?  Are those Sparaxis grandiflora that small?

The Sparaxis flowers where about 3 cm diameter
so by long not so small as Sisyrinchium (I can't find sisyrhinium)

Roland

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