New Mexico Alpine/Rock Garden Plants

Submitted by Peter George on Tue, 09/06/2011 - 13:47

NARGS is considering having its 2013 Study Weekend in northern New Mexico, probably in Sante Fe, and I'm curious what kinds of plants we would be likely to see in late March through Early April in the Sangre de Christo Mountains and the Jemez Mountains.

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Submitted by Peter George on Tue, 09/06/2011 - 15:28

Because you are already considering how to work out a trip to New Mexico, and identifying the plants you'll be seeing in situ will give you the intellectual rationale for such an expenditure in time and treasure.


Submitted by Kelaidis on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 20:40

Early spring in New Mexico is generally very windy and dry. It is not their best season: autumn (right now through October) is their loveliest time of year. The Chihuahuan desert is a summer rainfall desert.

That said, there are always interesting things to see. This year, however, has been an unmitigated disaster horticulturally. You may want to talk to some of them about it starting with David Salman of High Country Gardens [email protected]

Love the idea myself!


Submitted by Mark McD on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 19:42

Thanks Maggi, it is good to reminded about this web site, I wish more of the US States had good coverage on their flora.  While "armchair botanizing" I pointed to this web site in the past, as there are photos of species one can't find elsewhere; here are some previous links showing a small sampling of some plants found in New Mexico:

re: Erigeron scopulinus
http://nargs.org/smf/index.php?topic=61.msg982#msg982

http://nargs.org/smf/index.php?topic=567.msg6152#msg6152
(see Polygala rimulicola var. rimulicola link)

http://nargs.org/smf/index.php?topic=264.msg2294#msg2294
(see Penstemon alamosensis link posted by Lori Skulski)


Submitted by Kelaidis on Thu, 09/15/2011 - 10:05

April/May is not the best season for New Mexico: often very windy and dry. There is not the rich ephemeral spring flora that characterizes so much of the Eastern US or California (which have lots of winter moisture and spring rain). The Chihuahuan desert and its outliers (New Mexico and Southern Colorado included) have a modified monsoonal rainfall pattern where the greatest moisture falls in the summer months. The monsoons most years start in July and go on to September or even later. They are usually afternoon showers, often quite heavy. I find that late August through September is the most enchanting time to seek out flowers in New Mexico at lower elevations. The Sangre de Cristo and especially the Sandia mountains have the sexy alpines blooming around the 4th of July--but most years the lowland stuff is still dormant then. There are still lots of delphiniums, aconites, asteraceae galore blooming in August higher up, so there are things to see then, but the Rio Grande valley flowers are later: things like Dalea scoparia (a big blue broom that is so fragrant), Houstonia rubra, Psilostrophe tagetina, Abronia, Verbena, etc. etc....tons of color most years. That said, this year was a disaster: spring, summer and fall are all very dry. But two years from now I predict great color! I think this is a great idea...


Submitted by Tim Ingram on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 02:52

This event does sound really fascinating. I have only such a limited knowledge of the flora of these regions and have just looked up Dalea scoparia; wonderful deep violet-blue flowers. I think some of the Lotononis from South Africa have a similar appeal (though I don't know if they are fragrant too). Legumes in general are such great plants! I shall look through the websites recommended by Mark and Ian.


Submitted by Peter George on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 05:41

I just got back from a visit to Denver, and spent a good deal of time with Panayoti touring the Denver Botanic Garden and two gardens in Lakewood. What I discovered about New Mexico plants makes me even more excited about the event. So many plants there bloom in late summer and early fall, as a result of their rainy season/monsoon, which normally occurs in summer. As a result, we're planning the event for late August, in order to get the maximum benefit from the location. My guess is that we'll have a 3 day meeting, followed by one or more tours into the mountains around Sante Fe, one of which may end up as an 'expedition,' lasting 3-5 days. At this point we don't have a NARGS Chapter in New Mexico, but I suspect that will not be the case in two months or less. I'll keep you apprised as we move forward with this project.

The Annual General Meeting of NARGS in 2013 is going to be in western North Carolina, by the way, and also should be a great event in a botanical wonderland. It will likely be held in June, so the summer of 2013 will be the most interesting one we've had in a long time!


Submitted by Ward on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 14:24

Peter and others,
The annual NARGS meeting in North Carolina's mountains is being planned for early May 2013.
--Bobby Ward


Submitted by Peter George on Wed, 10/05/2011 - 14:41

And plans include a post-conference excursion to one or more interesting botanical destinations in the surrounding areas of Western North Carolina!


Submitted by Hoy on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 04:15

Now I don't know what to do - shall I aim for the Carolina meeting or the New Mexico meeting? I hav not time for both!


Submitted by Fermi on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 22:08

Ward wrote:

Peter and others,
The annual NARGS meeting in North Carolina's mountains is being planned for early May 2013.
--Bobby Ward

That's a shame, Bobby, as it will clash with the 2nd Prague International Rock Garden Conference! We're hoping to get there though wew haven't seen any details yet, but Vojtech Holubec mentioned it at the Alpines Conference in April.
cheers
fermi


Submitted by Booker on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 05:06

Fermi wrote:

Ward wrote:

Peter and others,
The annual NARGS meeting in North Carolina's mountains is being planned for early May 2013.
--Bobby Ward

That's a shame, Bobby, as it will clash with the 2nd Prague International Rock Garden Conference! We're hoping to get there though wew haven't seen any details yet, but Vojtech Holubec mentioned it at the Alpines Conference in April.
cheers
fermi

I was about to pen the self-same thing Fermi.  Great minds and all that ... !


Submitted by IMYoung on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 05:19

I think there will be a Swedish event in May  2013 as well...... ??? I know there are many hoping to attend both Swedish and Czech events.


Submitted by Fermi on Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:14

IMYoung wrote:

I think there will be a Swedish event in May  2013 as well...... ??? I know there are many hoping to attend both Swedish and Czech events.

Do you know who's organising that one? Will it be before or after Prague? Sounds like my trip in 2007 when I went from Prgaue to Sweden (Goteborg) then Scotland! A return trip perhaps? ;D
cheers
fermi


Submitted by IMYoung on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:03

Fermi wrote:

IMYoung wrote:

I think there will be a Swedish event in May  2013 as well...... ??? I know there are many hoping to attend both Swedish and Czech events.

Do you know who's organising that one? Will it be before or after Prague? Sounds like my trip in 2007 when I went from Prgaue to Sweden (Goteborg) then Scotland! A return trip perhaps? ;D
cheers
fermi

I'm not sure, fermi.

Will ask Ian when he returns from a speaking trip to England, I think he may know more than I.  


Submitted by Booker on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 05:02

IMYoung wrote:

Fermi wrote:

IMYoung wrote:

I think there will be a Swedish event in May  2013 as well...... ??? I know there are many hoping to attend both Swedish and Czech events.

Do you know who's organising that one? Will it be before or after Prague? Sounds like my trip in 2007 when I went from Prgaue to Sweden (Goteborg) then Scotland! A return trip perhaps? ;D
cheers
fermi

I'm not sure, fermi.

Will ask Ian when he returns from a speaking trip to England, I think he may know more than I.  

We are all agog, Maggi ... we need to get together in foreign lands at the earliest opportunity!  :D


Submitted by IMYoung on Thu, 10/27/2011 - 04:04

IMYoung wrote:

Fermi wrote:

IMYoung wrote:

I think there will be a Swedish event in May  2013 as well...... ??? I know there are many hoping to attend both Swedish and Czech events.

Do you know who's organising that one? Will it be before or after Prague? Sounds like my trip in 2007 when I went from Prgaue to Sweden (Goteborg) then Scotland! A return trip perhaps? ;D
cheers
fermi

Will ask Ian when he returns from a speaking trip to England, I think he may know more than I.  

There will be two conferences in Europe in Spring 2013.... ( that I know of!)

Swedish Event:
Every ten years, Sällskapet Trädgårdsamatörerna (the Swedish Society of Amateur Gardeners) arranges a conference with an alpine theme in collaboration with the Alpine Department at the Botanic Gardens in Gothenburg. The next occasion will be from 30th May to the 1st June 2013. The conference includes exhibitions of plants and plant photography, visits to local gardens, plant sales and a series of lectures.

Czech Event:
The 2nd International Rockgarden Conference will be held from 2. to the 5.of May 2013 in Tabor, south of Prague.