Which viola is this?

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Lori S.
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Which viola is this?

Can anyone tell me what viola I have here? I have Viola pedata 'Bicolor' written on my map but it's sure not that! Thanks.

AmyO
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Lori, that looks very much like V. canadensis. Here's a phot link for it...http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=viola+canadensis&view=detail&id=96CA...

Amy Olmsted Hubbardton, VT, Zone 4

Lori S.
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Yes, good heavens, I didn't even think of that one... It looks a little different than the Viola canadensis (shown below) that I have in the front yard though (less elongated leaf tips).  What do you think?  Maybe just variations within the species?  

Lori Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3 -30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

Hoy
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I don't know that species but I know violets can be difficult to name. You have to look at how it branches, where the leaves are attached to the stem and so forth.

Trond Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers  (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!

Nicolson
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Looks like Viola striata to me -

Mark McD
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Does seem likely to be V. canadensis.  In the USDA Plant Profile pages, they recognize 4 varieties, those that occur in Western Canada would be V. canadensis var. rugulosa.

Viola canadensis, 4 varieties in USDA Plant Profileshttp://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=VICA4

Calphotoshttp://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?query_src=photos_index&where...

Burke Museum of Natural Historyhttp://biology.burke.washington.edu/herbarium/imagecollection.php?Genus=...

E-Flora BC, V. canadensis var. rugulosahttp://linnet.geog.ubc.ca/Atlas/Atlas.aspx?sciname=Viola%20canadensis

I scanned a line drawing of V. canadensis from Violets of North America by Erza Brainerd, Vermont Agricultural Experiment Station, December 1921, Bulletin 224.

Someday I'll scan and post some of the fine watercolors and line drawings from this 171 page monograph that precedes Doretta Klaber's book on Violets, some of the drawings are very beautiful.  There's a separate volume entitled "Some natural Violet Hybrids of North America" also by Erza Brainerd, 205 pages, published in 1924; there are a staggering number of natural hybrids, which gives me cause to not worry about what violet species I might be looking at  ;)

Mark McDonough Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5 antennaria at aol.com  

Mark McD
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Nicolson wrote:

Looks like Viola striata to me -

The problem with Viola identification, many are so similar, the taxonomy is extremely confusing, and many (most) species naturally hybridize.  The photos of V. striata do look similar, but there are these narrow leafy toothed bracts along the stems, it can be seen in this drawing:http://wisplants.uwsp.edu/scripts/bigphoto.asp?bigphoto=VIOSTR_.jpg&taxon=Viola%20striata%20Aiton&phog=Botanical%20Illustration&spcode=VIOSTR...and they can be seen (although blurred) in this photo just to the lower right of the flower:http://wisplants.uwsp.edu/scripts/bigphoto.asp?bigphoto=VIOSTR_STEELE.jpg&taxon=Viola%20striata%20Aiton&phog=Kyle%20Steele&spcode=VIOSTR

aha, found a page that clearly shows the lanceolate "stipules" or aforementioned toothed bracts along the stem:http://www.missouriplants.com/Whitealt/Viola_striata_page.html...and another showing the "stipules":http://tenn.bio.utk.edu/vascular/database/vascular-photos-enlarge.asp?Ca...

USDA Plant Profile on Viola striata, found in eastern half of the USA:http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=VIST3

Mark McDonough Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5 antennaria at aol.com  

Mark McD
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Just thought I'd show this one, Viola palmata that shows up spontaneously in my yard (at least I think it is V. palmata).  Some of the leaf forms are very variable, so I wonder if they might be hybrids.  One photo shows flowers in late May, and then one taken in September 2011 showing the rather attractive foliage and cleistogamous-produced seed pods opening.  The day after I took the foliage photo, it was eaten to a stub by rabbits, they adore violets, thus the near total decline of many forms of V. pedata I once had.

 

Mark McDonough Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5 antennaria at aol.com  

Mark McD
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Lis wrote:

Be glad, be very glad, the rabbits ate the violet. From the pictures, it is V. palmata. I have it and it is one of my worst weeds. Every little bit of rhizome sprouts.... every seed germinates.... OK, it's a pretty flower, but enough already! Can I borrow a rabbit?

I've had V. palmata natively in my yard for the 24 years I've lived here; I almost never have problems with rabbits but the last few years there's been a couple rabbits around and a woodchuck family.  In all those years this violet has barely spread at all even though it does set lots of seed, just here and there the plant pops up and I always welcome them.  One person's weed (in a given climate) may be another person's delight in a different climate.  By the way, if I could loan you my wild rabbits, I'm happy to do so ;)

Mark McDonough Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5 antennaria at aol.com  

Mark McD
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Here's a cute little violet species that I took photos of in a graveyard in Templeton, MA (central Massachusetts) back in May 2011.  The graveyard had beautiful swathes of Phlox subulata, wide attractive patches of a short-stemmed dioecious Antennaria in both male and female forms, and just a few individuals of this little rosette-shaped viola.  Anyone know what violet species it is?

Mark McDonough Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5 antennaria at aol.com  

Hoy
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Can't help you Mark! The most similar species I am familiar with is this one, Viola rupestris:

Trond Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers  (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!

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