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South American plants

I just got in plants from Gethyum atropurpureum I hope they are true namedbut it looks correct

Roland

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I can't tell you whether this is correct - and I wont call this a beautiful plant either, Roland, however it is a rather extraordinary one!You write that you have a nursery, do you export plants? I suppose it is mostly bulbs ;)

Trond Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers  (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!

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Sorry I forgot to introduce myself

I am a commercial bulb-salesman in the little bit less usual varieties

As hobby I run a small nurseryI sell to some international suppliers , as Dix export and Van Tubergen (same owner),if I have leftovers from unusual bulbs

I don't export neither is the nursery open for publicthe bulbs are just for sale at plant-shows

For the rest I prefer to swap seeds or bulbsso I can increase my knowledge and assortment

Roland

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Hello Roland! Nice to meet you ;)Had been nice to swap with you but I can't think of anything I have that you don't have ;)

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Mark McD
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Hi Roland, we meet up on the same forums and maillists, glad to see you here :). 

The Gethyum atropurpurem looks right to me. As a fan of Alliaceae, I've had interest in the S. American relatives, but as many (most) are not hardy here, I don't grow any, although did have a brief foray with Tristagma.  I researched and found the following pertinent information:

GETHYUM was originally placed in the Alliaceae (Allium family) but some proposed moving this to Gilliesiaceae  (Gilliesia family)

There are two species: Gethyum atropurpureum & G. cuspidatum

The Plant List does not accept the genus Gethyum, and attributes these plants as Solaria atropurpurea and S. cuspidata, and throwing all of the Alliaceae in Amaryllidaceae.http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-289038

more links:http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Gethyumhttp://www.hillkeep.ca/bulbs%20gethyum.htm

Mark McDonough Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5 antennaria at aol.com  

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Chileflora mentions also Solaria brevicoalitabut this is maybe a synonymI will have a look later

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Here is a little info for the familySee: Floral Anatomy and Systematics of Alliaceae with Particular Reference to Gilliesia, a Presumed Insect Mimic with Strongly Zygomorphic Flowers

What I understand is that they are differenttwo are Gethyum and three are Solariabut they are different

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I bought ten different Alstroemeria'sat ChilefloraJust the smaller onesI don't have the space for the larger onesJust google Chileflora and the name of the Alstroemeriathis is easier , because some are under Perennialsother under the bulb sectionsure it's an interesting place for the real plant-lovers

First Alstroemeria umbellata

Pictures taken awayto complicated to show

Roland

Moderator note:  the simple steps of indicating "fair use" when posting copyrighted photos by others, were supplied numerous times (state "fair use", include a link to the source site).  Roland feels this is too complicated and subsequently deleted the photos.  Since many single messages showed someone else's copyrighted photos one at a time without commentary, once the forumist deleted the photos, the empty posts no longer made sense, so all empty messages were deleted accordingly to eliminate confusion for forumists.  sigh :(

To see the Alstroemeria photos that Roland has posted, take a look at the ChileFlora web site:http://www.chileflora.com/Florachilena/FloraEnglish/PIC_FAMILIES_SIMPLE_...

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Roland - I know a lot of the Alstro. names from seedlists but very nice to see them pictured here. I have grown pallida and the lovely dwarf form of hookeri in the garden, but sadly have lost them now. I do have a few others from Archibald seed but have lost the names. They are great plants and I would like to try them again on sand beds. Do you also grow or know Leontochir?

Dr. Timothy John Ingram Faversham, Kent, UK I garden in a relatively hot and dry region (for the UK!), with an annual rainfall of around 25", winter lows of -10°C and summer highs of 30°C.  

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I ordered the seeds TimBut I have never seen them

Roland

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bulborum wrote:

And the last oneall seeded last weekI don't know how long it takes before they flowermaybe one of you seeded them beforeand know the answer

Roland

Alstroemeria hookeri

I have tried Alstroemeria seed from Chileflora a few times and they always have good germination. However, even from seed they grow in winter and is dormant in summer! I have also lost several plants due to slug attack and none has flowered yet. I still have a few pots I hope, and I try to postpone the growing season a few weeks more!

Trond Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers  (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!

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