Douglasias and how my mind works

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penstemon
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Douglasias and how my mind works

To start off, some douglasias. Douglasia nivalis, which sometimes flowers as early as January here(but not in these pictures), in a trough, and then D. montana in a not-so-great year. 

 

penstemon
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So anyway, there are douglasias in the troughs here. One year, this thing appeared in one of the raised beds. It had strangely succulent leaves, and I had no idea what it was, until it bloomed. 

 

 

Bob

extreme western edge of Denver, Colorado; elevation 1705.6 meters, average annual precipitation 30cm; refuses to look at thermometer if it threatens to go below -17C

penstemon
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"It must be a douglasia", I thought, "but which one?" So I sent a piece off to Tass Kelso, and she said it was probably a form of either nivalis or idahoensis, I forget which one. 

I got so excited I decided to transplant the thing into one of the troughs with douglasias ....and that was the end of that. 

Bob

extreme western edge of Denver, Colorado; elevation 1705.6 meters, average annual precipitation 30cm; refuses to look at thermometer if it threatens to go below -17C

Lori S.
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Joined: 2009-10-27

Well, these things happen.  

My problem seems to be a peculiar obsession with starting seed... no, I should restate that... the obsession starts with OBTAINING seed, which is when my thinly-veiled greed comes roaring to the surface.  Then starting seed is pretty obsessive too, given that I don't have unlimited space for planting (though, luckily - *ahem* - I kill enough each year to always have spaces).  By the time I actually get to planting out what I've started, I'm often in the burnt-out aftermath where the former enthusiasm has waned, so it's, "Oh, god, how many more trays to plant?  Look, there's an empty spot - let's just stick it in there.  Uggh, can't be bothered to record where I planted it... I'm sure I'll remember what it was...".    ;-)

But... your Douglasia are looking fantastic!  I only have D. montana (and not grown particularly well), so it's very interesting to see your plants and how much the foliage varies between these species.  

Lori Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3 -30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

penstemon
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Aftercare is often a problem here. Or was. I don't have much of anything else to do, these days, and so I go down into the laundry room every day, maybe twice a day, and look at the oncocyclus seedlings, and check the bags of seed for more signs of germination. So it seems as though this is taking forever. 

Today, I made a place for the three flats of acorns I sowed (Quercus undulata), squirrel-proof behind hardware cloth, and washed a bunch of pots in preparation for sowing all the twenty-year-old seed I got. I'm still looking at Pavelka's seedlist, and thinking. (Already ordered from Stanek.)

I sowed more cactus seed, too, on the 25th. The first picture, which I may have already posted, and taken with the flash just now, so crummy, shows about 600 seedlings mostly from last year's sowing (some from the year before), and the second picture shows the seedlings that have emerged from the sowing on the 25th. 

When people ask me what I'm going to do with all these plants, I just give them a blank look. What kind of question is that to ask a gardener? 

 

Oh, by the way. I'm probably one of the few people who will admit that they killed the white form of Physoplexis comosa

Bob

extreme western edge of Denver, Colorado; elevation 1705.6 meters, average annual precipitation 30cm; refuses to look at thermometer if it threatens to go below -17C

RickR
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Joined: 2009-09-21

Always informative to follow your writings, Bob. 

Are you overwintering your seedling cactuses in the warm?

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

penstemon
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I thought I would post this as a supreme example of my extremely dumb behavior......

The cactus seedlings are on tables in the upstairs bedroom, where they get afternoon sun. Grown in pure sand. (Germinated in a regular-type soilless mix, then transplanted into sand to avoid root rot.) I couldn't say if the cactus have shriveled in preparation for winter; it's often subtle in plants that small, but I assume they have, so I won't water them until spring. 

Incidentally, the pots are B.E.F. Grower's Pots, made in the U.K., which I bought for about twenty-five cents each back about 1990 or so; they've been outdoors ever since, and are all still intact. Can be squeezed between thumb and forefinger, almost to meet in the middle, just like new. I understand the pots are no longer made, and now wish I'd bought hundreds in different sizes. 

Bob

extreme western edge of Denver, Colorado; elevation 1705.6 meters, average annual precipitation 30cm; refuses to look at thermometer if it threatens to go below -17C

Hatchett
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Joined: 2010-05-06

D. nivalis in the garden today. They grow like weeds in the rock garden and make a prodigious amount of seed. Most of mine are done

flowering by early March.

Jim Hatchett Eagle, Idaho Zone 3? Elevation  2600', Annual precipitation 11" avg.

Against boredom even the gods struggle in vain" Friedrich Nietzsche

Lori S.
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Joined: 2009-10-27

Beautiful!  What's the yellow one to the left?  Are those the seed pods of Oenothera (O. triloba??) surrounding it?

Lori Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3 -30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

Hatchett
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Lori, the seed pods come from a crummy tree that is in my yard. It manages to slowly loose its seedpods all winter long so i am constantly picking them up. The yellow flowers are some unknown Draba. These flower very early and provide sustenance to the pollinators when things are mostly not in bloom. As soon as the flowers fade i cut them all off, i have lots of this particular Draba and dont need any more, Same goes for most of the Astragalus and Oxytropis. The other Draba i grow, Draba densifolia seems to not have such rampant tendencies so i let them go on and seed around.

Jim Hatchett Eagle, Idaho Zone 3? Elevation  2600', Annual precipitation 11" avg.

Against boredom even the gods struggle in vain" Friedrich Nietzsche

RickR
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Joined: 2009-09-21

The crummy tree would be a sycamore.  Trees with the right provenance barely make it up here in Minneapolis.  I'm told they tend to get a fungal leaf disease, I think an anthracnose, that defoliates the trees in the summer.  And then they leaf out again.  Nice bark, though.

 

Jim, those plants are super happy!

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

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