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Broekhuis
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Unknown allium

Got this one from the 2010/2011 seed exchange as 'Allium platycaule' - but it's not that. I'm afraid I didn't take very good close-up photos of the flowers, but the photos I did take are up at http://www.robsplants.com/plants/AlliuRGN . Any suggestions would be welcome.

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Hi Rob, that plant is almost certainly Allium strictum (synonym A. lineare). This species can be considered the "type" for a group of rather similar species.

One species that it is closely related is Allium splendens (nothing very splendent about it), the true A. splendens is almost never seen (although it is in cultivation), almost everything in cultivation under the name "splendens" is some other species.  If one does a google image search on Allium splendens, you'll see about 30 different allium species, so don't even bother looking :(.  If you do a google image search on Allium strictum, you'll get a higher percentage of correct images, although some misnomers as well, alliums are terribly mixed up in horticulture.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
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Without seeing closer hand details, there is also a possibility the plant shown in the link is Allium hymenorrhizum, an most variable species.  The emerging foliage of this one is a strong indicator of the species, with strongly falcate initial leaf emergence... later the leaves are more normal looking and strap like

Mark McDonough
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Broekhuis
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Allium strictum looks like a good fit - thanks. It's always good to set things right in the garden.
I just now saw your second follow-up - I'll have to pay attention to the foliage when it emerges this spring; I don't remember it being falcate, but I may not have been looking closely enough.

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Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania, USA - zone 6, maybe 6b. Suburbaner.

Steve Newall
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Mark - Would you be able to help me out with an ID on this Allium found high up on Fiddler's Peak in the Siskiyous . Thanks

Balclutha , New Zealand

Mark McD
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Jandals, your Allium is most likely A. falcifolium, frequent in the Siskiyou Mountains, one of the many desirable dwarf western American alliums.  It ranges from white, to light pink, to deep purplish-rose; the one you show is a very fine form indeed.  The strongly falcate foliage is characteristic of the species, but your subject plant it is so covered with flowers we can't see the foliage. Googling, I could not find a Fiddler's Peak, but did find a Fiddler Mountain, Oregon.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
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Steve Newall
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Thanks again Mark . That's all my USA stuff named now . Fiddler Mountain near Cave Junction OR is where I saw it

Balclutha , New Zealand

Toole
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Mark and others

Any idea on the name of this tiny autumn white flowering Allium.

Unseasonal 25c here yesterday and some of the flowers opened --i can take a pic if that helps .
Thanks.

Cheers Dave.

Invercargill
Bottom of the South Island New Zealand
Zone 8 maritime climate
1100mm,(40 in),rainfall p.a.
Nil snow cover

Mark McD
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Toole wrote:

Mark and others

Any idea on the name of this tiny autumn white flowering Allium.

Unseasonal 25c here yesterday and some of the flowers opened --i can take a pic if that helps .
Thanks.

Cheers Dave.

I believe this is Allium togashii (published as A. togasii in Ohwi's Flora of Japan).  While giving the impression of being white-flowered, in the forms I have grown I find this species typically has flowers with a pinksih tinge.  Please show us a photo when the flowers open.  By the way, this is a very good well-behaved late summer or early autumn species, one of my favorites, a good one for the rock garden.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
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Toole
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Thanks a lot Mark

Will do so when there is more of a display in a few days.

Cheers Dave.

Invercargill
Bottom of the South Island New Zealand
Zone 8 maritime climate
1100mm,(40 in),rainfall p.a.
Nil snow cover

Toole
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McDonough wrote:

I believe this is Allium togashii (published as A. togasii in Ohwi's Flora of Japan).  While giving the impression of being white-flowered, in the forms I have grown I find this species typically has flowers with a pinksih tinge.  Please show us a photo when the flowers open.  By the way, this is a very good well-behaved late summer or early autumn species, one of my favorites, a good one for the rock garden.

Mark
Here's the Allium a few days on.No sign of any pink ...yet.

Cheers Dave.

Invercargill
Bottom of the South Island New Zealand
Zone 8 maritime climate
1100mm,(40 in),rainfall p.a.
Nil snow cover

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