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McDonough wrote:

And as a parting shot, here is Allium caeruleum, the excellent form from Denver Botanic Garden... I wish it was more amenable to cultivation, I haven't yet found a spot where it will produce more than a single stem here and there.  

Did you try it to grow from seed ??a friend of me grows Allium caeruleum for the commercebut it has still now and then a few bulblets in the flower-head

most clones in the trade here have a lot of bulblets in the flower-head  :(

Roland

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bulborum wrote:

Did you try it to grow from seed ??a friend of me grows Allium caeruleum for the commercebut it has still now and then a few bulblets in the flower-head

most clones in the trade here have a lot of bulblets in the flower-head  :(

Roland

This an extra fine form of Allium caeruleum that doesn't make any bulbils in the flower head, it is taller growing, with larger heads, and a bright blue color versus the darker blue color of those typically in commerce.  It makes myriad little bulblets at the base of the stalks and around the mother bulb; I have gathered these and replanted them, but they are very slow to increase in size, and only the very largest bulbs will flower.  I wish it would grow more easily, to create a scene similar to the one at Denver Botanic Garden, see gthe photos in this link from 2010.http://nargs.org/smf/index.php?topic=177.msg1254#msg1254

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Fantastic

maybe one day you have some bulblets to swapI understand that this one is self-sterile ???

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I received this as Allium karelinii (SRGC seed from 2007).

From FOC: Leaves, leaf sheaths, and scape scabrous-denticulate along angles. Fl. Aug.Meadows, along streams; 2000--2500 m. Xinjiang (Altay Shan, Tarbagatay Shan, Tian Shan) [Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Russia].

It  doesn't feel obviously rough. Suggestions?

Stephen Barstow Malvik, Norway 63.4N Age: Lower end of the 20-25,000 day range

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If the stems are not scabrid, and obviously so when running one's fingers along the stems, then what you have is Allium schoenoprasum  :(

Basically, A. karelinii is the scabrous phase of A. schoenoprasum (syn. Allium schoenoprasum var. scaberrimum Regel), but it is an accepted species these days.

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Mark

Do you know people with nice Allium cernuum selectionsI have later in the year seeds from white and soft pink onesI collected three different colours at Head smashed in buffalo jump (Canada)

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Oh joy, thanks Mark!

Anyway, it looks different to any of my other schoenoprasums and I reckon they are underrated as in the attached bouquet I took a few days ago (judging by the reactions I got when I posted this picture on FB a few days ago)!

Stephen Barstow Malvik, Norway 63.4N Age: Lower end of the 20-25,000 day range

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Stephenb wrote:

Oh joy, thanks Mark!

Anyway, it looks different to any of my other schoenoprasums and I reckon they are underrated as in the attached bouquet I took a few days ago (judging by the reactions I got when I posted this picture on FB a few days ago)!

Stephen, that bouquet looks good enough to eat  ;)

In case anyone in wondering about the strange place name Roland mentioned, this link descibes the place:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-Smashed-In_Buffalo_Jump

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Stephen

I didn't know there where so many colours selectedI have only the normal , white and he Forescate formNice selectionWhat is FB ???

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FB = Facebook

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