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Boland
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A. rubra also grows in Newfoundland but it is quite rare here and very restricted in its range...primarily around our Viking site at L'Anse-aux-meadows. A. alpina is our common species.

The flower on the Anemone does look like our A. parviflora.  HOWEVER, our parviflora often have a blue reverse so that feature is not definitive for seperating the two Rocky Mtn species.  Will to wiat for the basal leave to mature to say for sure but I will also side with parviflora.

Todd Boland
St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada
Zone 5b
1800 mm precipitation per year

Lori S.
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No, I wasn't meaning to suggest the bluish petal reverses on A. lithophila was a definitive difference (I remember you mentioning blue reverses on A. parviflora in your area, Todd), but just one of the differences - the two species are overall quite different (or at least I think they are  :)).

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

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Thanks for the input, Lori and Todd, I also have photographs of an Anemone from farther up the road I'll post as well; I think I will dig back to another I photographed in the region last year in mid summer, and I think I was thinking of that as parviflora, which seemed very different from these--for one thing, it was in a little patch with flowers rising from basal leaves (full developed) but I may a) be remembering it wrong and b) not have identified it certainly-- but that's why I was thinking these had to be something very different.. I'll dig up those other photos for your comments, may or may not get them done tonight...lol
Oh yeah--more of this Anemone in another spot some metres--in a totally different zone- away, those will be coming up too...

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

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Okay, so here are some more shots of the Anemone from nearby at the Columbia Icefield site-- a bit farther up slope, in an older plant community, still growing in Arctostaphylos rubra.. looking at them now, I see most of the emerging leaves do look quite rounded, and not linear divisions as I thought they were--good thing the camera records better than I remembered ;)

 

I think I had leaves more like this next one in mind-seems more linear, but will these still widen as they mature to look wider like the others, or is there variation in leaf division in parviflora?

Then, some distance up the road --maybe a half hour to drive? Similar altitude, but a much more mature site, with trees on part of it, and some exposed ridges (the main part of that to come another day)
Would these be the same species, or more than one species?

     

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

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I was digging to see if I happened to get those Anemones with mature leaves when I was at that site (Columbia Icefield) in late June, last year..
no luck, but I thought I'd show what the Arctostaphylos rubra (files corrected to not say 'salix' anymore..lol) a bit later in the year.. still great colour...

 

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

Lori S.
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They all look like A. parviflora to me... the last two photos looks like the plant has been distorted by something?

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

cohan
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Skulski wrote:

the last two photos looks like the plant has been distorted by something?

Who knows--snow? frost? stepped on by wildlife?..lol Though in person, the flower looked a little abused, the plant just seemed much 'bushier' .. I gather some parviflora can have  more divided leaves such as this.. I think my first view of the species was three toothed lobes without the deeper divisions.. I'm going to dig for those photos, watch them have more divisions too...lol

Here are two shots from 2010, another site again, presumably this is also parviflora, though flowering with leaves fully developed, in a cluster rather than the exclusively single plants I saw at the Columbia Icefield later in the year, but in May this year, the spot these plants were growing in June last year, behind some trees overlooking a waterfall, still had some deep snowbanks!

 

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

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Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

cohan
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The plants above--maybe 15-20cm tall? are the largest of those I've shown, the others no more than 10cm, though not fully developed; here is the first I saw, in 2009, much lower elevation (same site mentioned earlier, near the roadside 'lake' with Primula mistassinica and Dodectheon etc).here it was, if anything, even smaller, maybe under 10cm..I see the stem leaves look about the same as the others, I've had in mind all this time the basal leaves, which you can't see much in these pictures, but I have a couple of tiny seedlings (and staying that way..lol), and clearly lost track of the reality of the adult plants!

 

While we are on Anemones, from that same 2009 trip, what would you call this? I'd said Pulsatilla occidentalis at the time, but that can't be right, this is from a dryish foothill/montane slope, not the moist alpine slopes they are supposed to inhabit, and probably leaves aren't dense enough, either... just a sparse, small Anemone multifida? (single stem)

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

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Skulski wrote:

They look like A. parviflora to me too.
Here are some photos of A. drummondii var. lithophila ("A. lithophila"):
http://www.rmrp.com/Photo%20Pages/AA/Anemone%20drummondii%20var%20lithop...
http://linnet.geog.ubc.ca/ShowDBImage/gallery.aspx?page=0&specrep=0&code...

Thanks, yes I've seen those/similar photos, I looked them up when I was first looking.... the plants I photographed with developed leaves I assumed were parviflora, but some of those with undeveloped leaves seemed more divided to me, and I was thinking of parviflora as lobed and toothed, not divided as well, as I mentioned above.. no doubt variation in such a widespread plant (parviflora)...

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

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